Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, Gary I am not sure where that came from. Here we are using pjs that originally cost a LOT of money. My G90 retailed for like $40k. I realize I bought it used, but someone had to buy it first. Art and several others have spent $25k and more for their cinema pjs. Heck, Keith Yates charges like $50k and up to design a room IIRC. Value is in the eye of the beholder and if you got it you might as well spend it.
As for how good it is, I have heard from knowledgeable people that it is excellent. I will quote Glimmie from AVS (he is in the industry)
| Quote: | | Should have superior scaling and noise reduction. But no CMS. I'll be replacing my VP50pro with one of the 2D units.I may even be able to dump the old Digital Vision DVNR box I use for SD noise reduction. |
| Quote: | For a consumer product, the Lumagen is probably best. But the Teranex was/is a broadcast grade product. We have one of the original 1999 boxes where I work. It's six rack units, takes over 1kw of power, and cost $80K back then. What Teranex did was to reduce this box of PC boards to a chip. That is probably what put them out of business. Same thing happened to Qvis when they ported their hardware Wavelet compression engine to a single chip. Unless you are in consumer or the IT market you will never recover the costs of developing such a complex chip.
Teranex (via Silcon Optix) put up the monstrous R&D costs to make the chip, went bankrupt, and Black magic walks in and gets a fully designed and debugged chip which now costs pennies to make. That's why they can sell the box for $2K.
The image quality is the highest I have seen and I have critically evaluated many upconversion devices over the past 10 years in a broadcast environment.
Another problem is the quality and price were even too high for general broadcast use. We use it in high end mastering and post production but most broadcasters need a basic upconverter for slapping SD material into an HD program stream. The Teranex was too complicated for such a simple job. And technology has now brought us broadcast type upconverters for about $500 per card which are fine for the job. |
I would like to see a comparison between the Lumagen, Teranex, and a HTPC. Some of the HTPC guys at AVS say that they are producing better images than a VP, but I have my doubts.
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