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Curt Palme
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Since we're talking vintage audio...

..what would you guys use as a decent vintage receiver or pre/power amp for a vintage 2 channel system?

When I picked up my latest find, the Akai GX400, the guy had a HUGE setup in his basement. He basically had a low wall unit with all sorts of mixers and preamps set up, god only knows in what configuration, but what struck me is that he had most of his equipment mounted in small racks, and the whole setup looked very clean and very presentable.

So I got to thinking.. once I get the 30ish projectors out of my living room (should be by the end of the year), I should really set up a nice 2 channel system which is display-worthy. I currently have:

1-Akai GX400D
2- Technics 1500 series
1- Crown 824 RTR in a tilted rollaround rack
1-Sony Elcaset (!!)
1-pair EV Interface Ds
1- pair large vintage JBL 15" 2 way that need restoriing
1- pair Martin Logan Electrostats.

I do run across about once a year things like:

-Sansui 909db
-Pioneer high end SX series receivers.

I kept selling them as I get big $$ for them. I'm leaning towards something like a Pioneer SX1250 or 1280, but other ideas are welcomed.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject:

Id look for Two nice Mono Tube amps of 40 -50 watts(dynaco) then a classic SS receiver or integrated possibly of the Quad variation(Marantz) . Then a simple no frills Acoustic Research Turntable. Either the older AR XA/or XB or the 80's "AR Turntable"

But thats just me.

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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject:

I use a Pioneer SX-1010 that I purchased new long long ago in a stereo shop not to far away.

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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject:

A 60 wpc class A Pass labs Aleph 5 and a Pass labs Aleph P preamp....

https://www.google.com/search?q=pass+labs+aleph+5&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=tb7&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=YFE9T_eUAoqFtgeJzozaBQ&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1166&bih=571

https://www.google.com/search?q=pass+labs+aleph+p&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=uym&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8FE9T9q1M8XbtgeC4fXLBQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1166&bih=571

Or even better yet make your own.

http://www.kk-pcb.com/aleph-17.html

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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject:

I heard those amps on an all analog set up, I swear i could feel Ella Fitzgeralds breath in my face.

Nice choice Tom!!

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: Since we're talking vintage audio...

Curt Palme wrote:
............So I got to thinking.. once I get the 30ish projectors out of my living room (should be by the end of the year), .............


You'll just replace those 30ish with a new batch............ You will never see your true living space ever again. Wink

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: Since we're talking vintage audio...

wallace123456 wrote:
Curt Palme wrote:
............So I got to thinking.. once I get the 30ish projectors out of my living room (should be by the end of the year), .............


You'll just replace those 30ish with a new batch............ You will never see your true living space ever again. Wink

wallace


No, I have a deal with the g/f. She gets her kids out of the house, I get my 100+ 'kids' out of the house, and we get married.

It's a 3-5 year plan. Mr. Green
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Since we're talking vintage audio...

Curt Palme wrote:
wallace123456 wrote:
Curt Palme wrote:
............So I got to thinking.. once I get the 30ish projectors out of my living room (should be by the end of the year), .............


You'll just replace those 30ish with a new batch............ You will never see your true living space ever again. Wink

wallace


No, I have a deal with the g/f. She gets her kids out of the house, I get my 100+ 'kids' out of the house, and we get married.

It's a 13-15 year plan. Mr. Green


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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:10 am    Post subject:

That indeed is probably more realistic.


It's also why you and I could never be roommates, it would change to a 30 year plan! Razz
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
That indeed is probably more realistic.


It's also why you and I could never be roommates, it would change to a 30 year plan! Razz


I can just see how us being room mates would go.

AR "Curt have you seen my TEAC 8030 dual cassette deck? I left it right here."

Curt "Oh yeah that went on eBay over the weekend. I got a great price for it."

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
..what would you guys use as a decent vintage receiver or pre/power amp for a vintage 2 channel system?


Here's what I would do:

1 - Rebuild the Quad preamps and amps you just got.
2 - Buy an adjustable stereo electronic crossover - many old ones available on ebay for cheap.
3 - Give me the model number on the 15" JBL's and I'll use Bassbox to give you best box design for them.
4 - Pick up an old solid state power amp (old Crown DC-300?) to use for the JBL's
5 - If your Technics RTR doesn't have Dolby B built in, look on the Bay for an old Advent unit.
6 - The Quad amps will drive your M-L's.

If you do this, I'll send you some old 4-track, 7", prerecorded tapes in the original boxes that were distributed by Ampex in the 1950's and 1960's. Most use Dolby B, which is why I recommend you get the Advent.

It should sound impressive if you don't mind a little tape hiss.


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject:

Pioneer SX-1980, Marantz 2500, Marantz 2600, Anything McIntosh...

The first 3 will make you happy Smile

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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:55 pm    Post subject:

And if you go with separates, I cant say much for preamps, but you can always go with a Sansui B-2302 Amplifier Smile
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject:

Jeremy112 wrote:
Pioneer SX-1980, Marantz 2500, Marantz 2600, Anything McIntosh...

The first 3 will make you happy Smile


Especially the 2600, look at the $9,000 one on Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARANTZ-MINT-2600-AM-FM-STEREO-RECEIVER-CABINET-DLB-1-FULLY-RESTORED-/280817723526?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item41620a6886


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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject:

Accuphase integrated (e103) and a pair of Accuphase monoblocks (M60), driving JansZen electrostatic hybrids (z-30s & z-40s)
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject:

well, Curt said that he already has a pair of Martin Logans - from what i rmember they are first gen Logans - early 90's or so.

those speakers will require a bit of meat on the amp as the impedance can dip quite low - my CLS (same vintage) dip down to below 2 Ohms, but they run quite well on tube amps on the 4Ohm tap.

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Interesting list, that's for sure. I think I'll stick with a more mainstream amp over some of the esoteric amps mentioned here. First though, I need to get rid of stuff in the living room so I can see the carpet again.

Zap, post a pix of that XXX amp I was drooling over at your place.. the one with the nice tartan logo. Smile
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Jeremy112 wrote:
Pioneer SX-1980, Marantz 2500, Marantz 2600, Anything McIntosh...

The first 3 will make you happy Smile


Especially the 2600, look at the $9,000 one on Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARANTZ-MINT-2600-AM-FM-STEREO-RECEIVER-CABINET-DLB-1-FULLY-RESTORED-/280817723526?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item41620a6886


Athnaasios
That 2600 was $12,000 a week ago, I think the guy is off his rocker and cant get back on it...

Usually I see those go for $2000-$3000 in good condition, nice receivers, the blue Oscilliscope is what makes it unique Smile

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject:

I was eyeballing this one, since the guy said I could drive down to get it, but in light of the freaking projector hoarding I've done in the last week, I'm not buying nuffin' until the bank coffers are up, and the weight load on my house is halved. Smile

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290670888110&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123#ht_500wt_1202
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Interesting list, that's for sure. I think I'll stick with a more mainstream amp over some of the esoteric amps mentioned here. First though, I need to get rid of stuff in the living room so I can see the carpet again.

Zap, post a pix of that XXX amp I was drooling over at your place.. the one with the nice tartan logo. Smile


Curt, you can go with a SX-1280 for a good price of $1000 or less, great receivers, 185wpc at .03% THD 8 ohms,

I THINK it goes up to 240 wpc with a 4 ohm load. Nice compromise for power/price ratio Smile

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