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Gannon

Wow.

Nice piece of work, this 1.4 box is. Very well built.

Documentation is a wee bit lacking, but I rarely look at owner's manuals anyways.

Finally got my Quantun Data 802b generator's DVI output to work into it, so I knew I finally got the internal sync jumpers correct for the Dwin HD-700's strange affinity for negative sync.

Converged and calibrated it all, then tried to plug in the client's Onkyo receiver to switch between the cable box and Panasonic DMP-BD85 BluRay player.. No go on any of it, very frustrating. Decided to try a Key Digital HDMI switcher instead, and the cable box would pass...but not the BluRay player. UGH. Two steps forward, while I slip and slide back three.

It WILL play through a little Hanns computer monitor, which I've handy to toggle HDMI menu choices, but not through either HDMI switcher, and not directly plugged into the Moome, either. Especially. So, the BluRay player functions, but not in any way useful to me here.

THAT is my question...why won't this player work when directly plugged into the box?! I've tried every conceivable combination of setup settings. It is making me crazy. Or crazier, I guess. I had a nice headstart going, which is why I started this job probably.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Again, the trouble I wish to solve first is why the Panasonic BD85 won't play into the Moome 1.4 box directly...forget about the switchers for now...

Cheers,
John
stuck in Cincinnati

Gannon · Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject:

The Panasonic player never worked.

We picked up a cheap Samsung BluRay player, and after a firmware update it works fine.

BUT, it must go through the Key Digital switcher...simply going through the Onkyo it will not play. It will if the Onkyo is then passed through the Key Digital.

I truly hate HDMI.

Gannon · Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject:

Does anyone know if the Onkyo BluRay players are more like the Panasonic?

I would like to learn WHY we had this problem in the first place.

Seventy-seven views, and no replies.

Moome, can you please speak up and let me know more?! Help me hate HDMI a little less today.

Cheers,
John
Detroit

Gannon · Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:54 am Post subject:

I'd love to know if either the Onkyo or Oppo would have any of the same troubles I experienced with that Panasonic player.

Frustrating.

Gannon · Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject:

It has been a week now since my first post regarding these difficulties.

No comment from Moome. I am disappointed.

No reasons why a Panasonic BluRay wouldn't work, and the cheap Samsung does. No understanding why, and no suggestions about the potential of the Oppo or Onkyo products acting like one or the other.

Where are ya, Moome?! Help me out here...

Cheers,
John
Detroit

Gannon · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject:

Checking in...it has now been another couple of weeks, almost.

Where ARE you, Moome?!

You are making it really easy to become a fan of HD-Fury.

Sincerely,
John

Rolls-Royce · Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 288 Location: Victorville, CA

John, which Onkyo receiver is it? I have been feeding a Moome V2 box with 3 different Panny BD players (BD35, BD85, and now BDT210) through two different Onkyo receivers (a 705 and now a 3007) with no issues. With an earlier Onkyo TX-DS787, which also had HDMI connections, I had to use a Monoprice switch between it and my DISH receiver, but my HD DVD and BD players worked fine.

Another thing to check is if the Panny's HDMI output resolution is set to Auto. The Moome's EDID reports that it can accept 1080p, even if the attached display can't, so the Panny will send 1080p. Since the Moome isn't a scaler, through it the display may be getting a resolution from the BDP that it can't show. The 3007 has a Reon video processor and scaler, so I let it scale everything to the 1080i my display needs and the BDP can stay on auto. My old Onkyo 705 didn't scale video, so everytime there was a power outage or I updated the Panasonic firmware, the player went back to auto from 1080i. I had to use a composite video cable between the BDP and display to see the player's setup menus and reset the HDMI res to 1080i.

As regards similarities between Onkyo and Panasonic players, I don't know. Onkyo's earlier HD DVD player was based on the Toshiba XA-2, but with the availability of good lower-cost Blu-Ray players, I haven't been keeping up with reports on Denon, Onkyo, and other "higher-end" players. I'm pretty sure that the Oppo players aren't rebadged and tweaked mass-market units but are Oppo-designed and -built.

Hope this helps!

Gannon · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:46 am Post subject:

I don't have my notes handy, but it was something like the 787.

I used a computer monitor to force the Panny into 720p all the time.

I merely want some understanding why the Moome was so finicky...but I've learned that HDMI issues are rarely easy to figure out.

As far as I'm concerned, the Oppo is the only brand I can consistenly recommend without unexpected issues cropping up.

Thanks for the extensive reply...I will search out my notes and correct any errors in this post. I tried everything...

Cheers,
John

Gannon · Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:43 pm Post subject:

<sigh>

Another week.

No reply.

You're killin' me, Moome.

Cheers, anyways.

Gannon · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject:

OK, it's official. I now heartily endorse and recommend the HD-Fury brand of HDMI to RGB convertors...I'm just sick of waiting for any form of reply.

None of my clients will ever hear positive things from me, because you never even tried to reply...even with an "I don't know."

Sorry Moome. See ya. You had your chance.

Sincerely,
John

/end of thread

cinema mad · Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Posts: 219

Hi Gannon (John) Have you tried contacting Moome Directly as he is usually pretty responsive through Email,
I suspect Moome has been very Bussy thus hasn't visited here of late....
moome.liu@gmail dot com

As Rolls-Royce pointed out, I suspect the Sound processor didn't like the Display timing or the Sound Processor wasnt in pass through mode..

Most people with Moome external/internal device either run @ 1080p 60Hz or use A Video processor for custom timings
such as taking in 1080p 24Hz and out put 1920x817p 48/72Hz & use A Scaler/ VP with Dual HDMI outs,
or run A HDMI splitter off the BluPlayers HDMI output so the video side bypasses the Surround processor such as Onkyo as they tend to only support Standard HD SD timings 1080p 24/60Hz H+V+ sync, 720p ,480p any other resolution usually wont work such as the later noted above..

Hope this helps