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Picture Unstable after modification on HVPS
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haireez



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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Picture Unstable after modification on HVPS

Guys,

Need some help. I've always wanted to improve my Vision 1 picture quality and follow closely on Marquee modification.

I changed resistors as per Nashou's thread : http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=106306#106306

However, I made a mistake by putting 270ohm resistor instead of 270k. Initially, the picture was OK for 2 days but it suddenly 'POP' and burnt both resistor. I've change the correct resistors on both of them but the picture is not stable right now.

Does anybody know what or which resistor is failing?
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macgyver655



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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Are the location id's of those resistors R6 and R94?
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:02 pm    Post subject:

haireez, whatever you do, do 1 thing at a time, test for a couple hours and then proceed.

macgyver, could the lvps have been damaged by this?

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haireez



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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:07 pm    Post subject:

It's the R5 & R46 resistors that 'POP'. Anyway, I have a spare HVPS and confirmed that the LVPS and other component is good except for HVPS.
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macgyver655



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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject:

1) What do you mean by the pic is not stable?

2) Was it stable before the POP?

3) Whats the number on the supply?
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject:

Gday Macgyver!! Long time no see mate!! Smile
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject:

See what Mac says because I am no expert on the Marquee HVPS. However, I don't recommend messing about too much with the HVPS. You can run outside the X-Ray emissions compliance of the projector...

It might be best to just scrap the one you popped and never use it again. There might be health consequences.

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haireez



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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject:

Hi Mac,

Below is the answer pertaining to your 3 questions.

1. The pictures is shaking from left to right (Tried to attached videos but unable to do so. I will send email to you soon)

2. Yes, this is a good HVPS until I made some error on the resistor.

3. Part number as per attachment

Hi Craig,

I've thrown the POP resistor and replaced with correct resistor but still unstable.



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Nashou66



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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject:

Check your PM it might help you.

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject:

I wonder if you could have an H board issue? HV instability would usually result in an image increase or decrease in size all around, not just H shaking.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject:

Based on those MOV's you sent me you have some voltage fluctuation going on there. I would examine the disc shaped caps very closely. When they pop they usually just split the side a little bit and sometimes hard to find.

I dont have the print for the model so can't guide you directly. But use the traces on the board from those blown resistors and check components in both directions.

Curt, the pic is not really shaking back and forth as I thought from his description also. Its slightly changing size but in a consistent direction.


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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject:

Also, even the poly caps can split and be hard to find.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject:

Macs right there is a 330pf cap (C4) right after those resistors. Check that as well and might as well check all other resistors in that circuit
R6 and R94. I would lift on end to test them .

Mac would the Inductor L3 get damaged possibly? I never came across a bad inductor ever.

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject:

Wait a minute here. Are we looking at the same print. My print says R5 and R46 should be 220 ohms and R6 and R94 should be 270k.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Wait a minute here. Are we looking at the same print. My print says R5 and R46 should be 220 ohms and R6 and R94 should be 270k.


Mine says the same as yours mac.

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject:

Maybe I misunderstood his posts then. The ones he incorrectly installed were R6 and R94. And the ones that blew were R5 and R46.

I'll wait for the answer.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:05 pm    Post subject:

Guys,

I'm sorry about the confusion. I just verified that the resistors that POP is R2 & R6. Instead of using 270k, i used 270 ohm and both of them POP. Physically, all other capacitors looks fine.

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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject:

haireez wrote:
Guys,

I'm sorry about the confusion. I just verified that the resistors that POP is R2 & R6. Instead of using 270k, i used 270 ohm and both of them POP. Physically, all other capacitors looks fine.


Ok, R2 is suppose to be 47 ohm. Do you want to recheck? I need you to be very specific.
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:10 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
haireez wrote:
Guys,

I'm sorry about the confusion. I just verified that the resistors that POP is R2 & R6. Instead of using 270k, i used 270 ohm and both of them POP. Physically, all other capacitors looks fine.


Ok, R2 is suppose to be 47 ohm. Do you want to recheck? I need you to be very specific.


You beat me to it ! Wink Yes R94 is 270k.

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haireez



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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:51 pm    Post subject:

Guys,

Very interesting as my board shows R2 and not R94

Refer to photo attached.

However, does it matter? I have actually changed both to the correct value (270k) but why the image is still shaking.



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