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dturco · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:40 am Post subject: HDMI no longer to use "VERSIONS"

HDMI is putting a stop to versions IE: 1.1...1.3...1.3a....1.4....

To go with HDMI High Speed or High speed with Ethernet labels

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/trademark_logo_pub.aspx

Just make it work right first. Then change the name all you want. Rolling Eyes

greg_mitch · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 5320

So what is the deal on the "w/ethernet" cables?

I was going to pick one up from Monoprice but it had large bold red letters that indicated those cables were only for HD camcorders.

Will they not work with regular HDMI sources that aren't designed to take advantage of the ethernet?

dturco · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:58 am Post subject:

Any HDMI cable will/should work. The with Ethernet cables just have more of something in the specs.

From AVS

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20239115#post20239115

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:27 am Post subject:

Junk by any other name....

Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6635

Does this mean a virgin 1.4 is better than a virgin 1.3 ? Wink

greg_mitch · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 5320

Is anyone else concerned with using the large 22 AWG cables from Monoprice and then bending them at right angles (or as far as you can!)?

The damn cable is so thick and of course the HDMI connector at source and display is at right angle that the cable ends up wanting to make a huge radiused turn which makes the cable stick out too damn far.

ecrabb · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:23 pm Post subject:

Yeah, those cables are thick, Greg... They need at least a 6" radius... If I had a tight spot like behind a wall-mount flat-panel, I'd just use one of these right-angle adapters:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?spcDB=10419&spcWord=+DVI%2FHDMI+Adapters&keyword=hdmi%20angle

SC

greg_mitch · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 5320

nuttall_chris · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject:

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:32 pm Post subject:

Great, now you have a sh*tty connector coupled to another sh*tty short cable. (not critiquing you personally, but why not get rid of the thick cables and get flexible thinner ones?) The least amount of connections in an HDMI (or any other cable run), the better.

CIR Engineering · Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject:

I like the "Port Savers" as well and also the right angle adapters. However, depending on factors such as magic, they don't always work in all systems and they can introduce sparkles, streaks, or no picture to result. But they are cheap enough to just try and they usually work.

Also regarding the port savers; they are a good tool if you need to remove a pin from the HDMI signal wires. For example, I sometimes remove Pin-15 so that DDC data can't be sent and that way the EDID can't be read by the source. This can be useful if you are having color space or resolution mismatches...

craigr

ChrisWiggles · Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:18 am Post subject:

I highly recommend having a selection of port savers and 90degree angle adapters.

I also recommend using the best possible HDMI cable particularly over distance (short distances don't matter.) In my experience, the best HDMI I've ever used is the Blue-JEans (Belden) twisted pair stuff. It is exceptionally thick and inflexible, it's about as flexible as a garden hose (I'm not exaggerating here, the 'comfortable' bend radius I use is like a foot for these).

You have a better chance of things working with this cable and a short adapter, than you do with a cheap cable and no adapter.

And if you have a better thicker cable in there, you can always ditch the adapters as a last resort.

As always try to keep as direct a run as possible, particularly over those long distances. But the port savers and adapters are a lifesaver with really tight TV mounts and things if you can get away with them.

But yeah, HDMI blows. I blame Ronald Reagan. Wink