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zaphod



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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:01 am    Post subject:

Boilermaker wrote:
Her is what I would do: The cheapest way, but definately expandable and gets you started on blending.

Oppo = HDMI Splitter = (2) TVOne C2-2450A's = (2) XGLC's with Moome cards. Splitters are cheap and you can probably get a pair of the TVOne's for about $2,500.

You need to move the XG's as close as they will focus (don't remember what that distance is) so you can get in the 15-20% blend range

You would have to be able to do a perfect job of calibrating the XG's without any full cms such as the Lumagen or Dou.

Your picture would be so bright that you would easily be able to handle 3D if you ever wanted to (need to call TVOne to see when they will upgrade to 3D).

Where do you live - If close enough, I'll help you set-up.


cool - and thanks!

i'm in the Vancouver Canada area (2 hours north of Seattle). well, at 2am on empty I-5 it's 2 hours.

i hear what you're saying about the Moome cards - and with the new Oppo you don't even need the HDMI splitter as it has dual HDMI outputs.

but those 1250's are a steal at $329 each (that's about $300 each with current exchange rates). i already have the DVS304 which has dual RGBHV outputs (one BNC, the other DB-15). so my total would be $329 - just can't compare that to the $2,500 ballpark (plus moome cards) for the all digital chain as nice as that would be.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:20 am    Post subject:

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but those 1250's are a steal at $329 each (that's about $300 each with current exchange rates). i already have the DVS304 which has dual RGBHV outputs (one BNC, the other DB-15). so my total would be $329 - just can't compare that to the $2,500 ballpark (plus moome cards) for the all digital chain as nice as that would be.


I didn't see that price - Yes, that's a no-brainer.

Nash's comment about independent cms is correct, unless you are capable of doing a perfect job without it. I know I couldn't, but there are probably some pros that could.

Yes, Vancouver is a little past my driving range!


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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject:

CMS= Color Management System. This will have the tools to match Color, Greyscale and Gamma for each % value of White from 0-100% in 11 or 21 steps. This is a must i would honestly have to say.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject:

DOH!! yes. colour management. sorry - bad context in my brain.

in my own defense, i did a lot of work on CMS (Content management system) and it's evil sister DMS (Document management system) in my last job, and a bit in this job.Independant of that my wife's team just rolled out an XML based CMS system where she works. i'm pretty hardwired to think the C in CMS == content

too many TLA.

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:14 pm    Post subject:

zaphod wrote:
DOH!! yes. colour management. sorry - bad context in my brain.

in my own defense, i did a lot of work on CMS (Content management system) and it's evil sister DMS (Document management system) in my last job, and a bit in this job.Independant of that my wife's team just rolled out an XML based CMS system where she works. i'm pretty hardwired to think the C in CMS == content

too many TLA.


Not enough TNA?

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject:

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TV/Projector: ECP 4500 (Vidikron box), ECP4500+, wanting 07MS/07MTS, evaluating pc soft-blend

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject:

If you decide to buy/build a nicer machine that could use them, I would bundle the c-elements (or just the red) with the HD10Fs from the G90 I am parting out for $700 (or perhaps less with barter) including shipping. Of course, maybe Curt's massive batch of incoming PJs could yield something...like blending the two nicer runco 1100/barco 1292 units, for example!

Matt -- PM me if your thinking takes you down that path.
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TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:35 pm    Post subject:

Doesn't Curt have a decent set up of a 9500lc in his living room still? Go take a look at it. Based on the dollar signs being thrown around here I think you'd be better off getting a Marquee and spend more time enjoying movies than tweaking. You can spend your tweak time and money getting better tubes, red C, Vidkron case, etc... Wink

I'd personally never go back to an NEC now.

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zaphod



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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject:

good points, but if i go with a single projector on the 110" screen (or 96" i haven't decided) it puts the CRT over the second row. a marquee with it's 17" drop from the ceiling means about 5.5' of head room above that row - too low for comfort or safety.

a pair of machines in a blend means that the CRT to screen distance is greatly reduced and the machines will be over the lower 1st row.

add in the full tubeface usage and the extra brightness of two machines and it starts to look real attractive.

i've never had to tweak my NEC that much. a little convergence here and there, but both the AC and the LC one are pretty much rock solid.

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TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+

Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:09 pm    Post subject:

How tall are you?!!?!?!? Shocked

I enter the following evidence for your review:

Here are some shots I just took today. I keep hearing people thinking a 7' ceiling is too low and I want people to know that it isn't necessarily true.

I'm 6'1" and my projector at the lowest point is exactly 67" (5'7" from the ground). I've never come close to hitting my head. So long as the front of the projector isn't in front of the couch, you'll be just fine. It's not too low.

Also, if you listen to movies at a reasonable volume, I don't even notice the projector whirring away above me. My playstation makes more noise and it's in the tall cabinet by the stairs. Aslo, keep in mind I watch movies with my 18 month old boy able to stay asleep and his room which is at the top of the top of those stairs.

Now if you're one of those who locks their knees and just falls backwards onto the couch, you're gonna hit your head on it and there's no helping you... learn how to sit properly on a couch. Wink Razz

I await your rebuttal... Thumbs Up



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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject:

Hey, I see your're watching your projector but you're doing it all wrong Laughing
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:39 pm    Post subject:

"I looked at the trap Ray!" Laughing

I knew you'd comment. I should have put a bottle of rum in the image somewhere to distract you! Wink

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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject:

That's OK I found a bag marked Hors Taxes 2 days ago. It just happened to have a 40oz Bottle of cap'n Morgan Spiced in it Mr. Green
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:04 am    Post subject:

Mr. Green wrote:
"I looked at the trap Ray!" Laughing

! Wink


Just remember NOT TO CROSS THE STREAMS Laughing

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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject:

That took you WAY too long to figure out. So dissapointed... lol
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject:

Mr. Green wrote:
That took you WAY too long to figure out. So dissapointed... lol


Actually I was in the process of falling asleep after work earlier. No RUM involved Very HappyS

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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject:

"Are you... Alice, menstrating right now?"
"What's that got to do with it?
"Back off man, I'm a scientist!"

Wink

It's taken 20 years, but I think I've gotten to the point where I CAN'T recite that movie line for line. I might just have to watch it again. <not kidding>

I still need to play the PS3 Ghostbuster game that came out a while back. I bought it and haven't played. Busy with Drakes Fortune 2 before # 3 comes out. I only get an hour every couple weeks so I gotta make my time count. One game at a time... one at a time. Hey, where's my Rum?!?! Oh wait nevermind, it was a wine night... Thumbs Up

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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 6:18 am    Post subject:

Mr. Green wrote:
"Are you... Alice, menstrating right now?"
"What's that got to do with it?
"Back off man, I'm a scientist!"

Wink

It's taken 20 years, but I think I've gotten to the point where I CAN'T recite that movie line for line. I might just have to watch it again. <not kidding>

I still need to play the PS3 Ghostbuster game that came out a while back. I bought it and haven't played. Busy with Drakes Fortune 2 before # 3 comes out. I only get an hour every couple weeks so I gotta make my time count. One game at a time... one at a time. Hey, where's my Rum?!?! Oh wait nevermind, it was a wine night... Thumbs Up


The game is loads of fun. I bought it and G.B.#1 on bluray back in December.

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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject:

So far, the lowest ceiling height installation I've seen is 6'9". At 5'6". I was eyeball to lense with the 1292Q. It looked a little unusal to say the least, but it worked very well. It was surprising how fast I forgot about the 1292Q above.

The kicker was there was a 5" tall riser for a second row. The front row was two seats with the second a three seater couch. 52x92" screen and the sightlines were good.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for getting us back on track Ted. Yes, you can do it with the Marquee. I still think you should go see Curt's if he's still got it in his living room. Red C's are out there. I think it took me 2 months to find one when I started actively looking for one. Depending on what you get from Curt, he might have one for you.
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