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erikjohn
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | | erikjohn wrote: | I also love the BDP-93 because I can rip blurays right to hdd and play them with menus and everything just like the original disc.  |
Whoah, wait... What? The way I first read that it sounded like you were ripping BD's on the 93... That would rock. I assume you just mean you're ripping them to HD on a computer, then what... Connecting that HD to the 93, or sharing via network?
Damn, the 93 is looking better and better all the time.
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I am ripping(Copying file structure from BR disk) to Hard Disk on my computer using AnyDVD HD then connecting via Esata or USB. The 93 supports AVCHD file structure so with a simple workaround in the copied folders (Create folder named AVCHD and put BDMV and Certificate folders in there) it plays the BR just like it was on a disk. In order to do this is must be hard connected and not streaming.
As far as playing the ISO files I am not sure you could search the thread at AVS.
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ecrabb
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Thanks, Erik... That's sweet. With the 93, then I have no reason to get any sort of streambox or whatever... That saves an HDMI port and $100 or so right there. I love that it can play a BD rip with menus and all.
Dammit... Definitely starting to look like a BD-93 in my not-so-distant future. Gotta start selling off all my old stuff I'm not using anymore to pay for it, but... I think I'll even sell my HTPC case, since I don't think I really need or want an actual PC in the theater, anymore.
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dturco
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | Thanks, Erik... That's sweet. With the 93, then I have no reason to get any sort of streambox or whatever... That saves an HDMI port and $100 or so right there. I love that it can play a BD rip with menus and all.
Dammit... Definitely starting to look like a BD-93 in my not-so-distant future. Gotta start selling off all my old stuff I'm not using anymore to pay for it, but... I think I'll even sell my HTPC case, since I don't think I really need or want an actual PC in the theater, anymore.
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That's a good plan it worked for me 
No I haven't bought anything yet ....If I do it is either a 95 or ...a radiance mini 
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erikjohn
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | Thanks, Erik... That's sweet. With the 93, then I have no reason to get any sort of streambox or whatever... That saves an HDMI port and $100 or so right there. I love that it can play a BD rip with menus and all.
Dammit... Definitely starting to look like a BD-93 in my not-so-distant future. Gotta start selling off all my old stuff I'm not using anymore to pay for it, but... I think I'll even sell my HTPC case, since I don't think I really need or want an actual PC in the theater, anymore.
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You can move a hard drive with enclosure back and fourth from your computer and HT which is a bit of a PITA so on recommendation from another poster I bought two of these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001A4HAFS?ie=UTF8&tag=curtpalmecrtp-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001A4HAFS
Works slick as can be, I keep one docked at the 93 for playback and one at my computer for ripping and uploading media on to HDD. Kind of reminds me of using the old 8 track carts but a lot more high tech.
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| ecrabb wrote: | Thanks, Erik... That's sweet. With the 93, then I have no reason to get any sort of streambox or whatever... That saves an HDMI port and $100 or so right there. I love that it can play a BD rip with menus and all.
Dammit... Definitely starting to look like a BD-93 in my not-so-distant future. Gotta start selling off all my old stuff I'm not using anymore to pay for it, but... I think I'll even sell my HTPC case, since I don't think I really need or want an actual PC in the theater, anymore.
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This isn't really new. Quite a few play AVCHD, just not sure about the menus and such. A few will play the files over the network. If the player could rip straight to HDD, THAT would news!
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| greg_mitch wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | Thanks, Erik... That's sweet. With the 93, then I have no reason to get any sort of streambox or whatever... That saves an HDMI port and $100 or so right there. I love that it can play a BD rip with menus and all.
Dammit... Definitely starting to look like a BD-93 in my not-so-distant future. Gotta start selling off all my old stuff I'm not using anymore to pay for it, but... I think I'll even sell my HTPC case, since I don't think I really need or want an actual PC in the theater, anymore.
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This isn't really new. Quite a few play AVCHD, just not sure about the menus and such. A few will play the files over the network. If the player could rip straight to HDD, THAT would news! |
There are several things to consider. AFAIK the Oppo 93/95 is the only player out there that will recognize and play a drive formatted as NTFS which allows unlimited file sizes unlike FAT which limits file sizes. This is crucial to being able to rip to HDD without having to shrink and pull apart files without some external program and it is the only one that will play the menu's with the AVCHD workaround as I explained earlier.
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Ok I am satisfied that what I sold on ebay is now clear, everyone has their stuff and has acknowledged receipt of same in good working order, or satisfactory condition.
So which one the 95 or 93?
I really want the 95 because it looks cool, is built they way I want things to be built,namely separate chains for audio and video. I figure it won't have to work hard at decoding and the chipset will be less strained and sound better with SACD's or rebook CD's.
Then something occurred to me if the chipset that does the video is also doing uncompressed audio along with it then doing just the audio would be less strain.
So buying the 93 has very little drawback in the real world IE: not on specs on paper.
However; I hate the thought of the gee I wonder if the 95 sounded better or, the If only I had bought the other one.
But either one will solve a problem I have. I need 2 sets of 5.1 analog inputs on a processor or HDMI True HD capability and 5.1 analog for SACD. Neither of which I have currently. So it solves having to buying a new processor to handle that, for a lot more money.
Just rambling on I still haven't done it yet.
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Tom.W
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The first question seems to be if the 93 at $499 from Amazon delivered will sound that much different then the 95 for twice the price using your current audio system ?
http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BDP95
The second question is do you think your audio system performance is limited by the source or perhaps another component in your system ?
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dturco
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Oh I am fairly sure my systems is not limited by any thing other than the source. Bryston sst amps Arcam Av-9 Pre -pro, Integra dps 10.5 SACD CD player' Dali Helicon speakers. The system sounds great. The Sony BDP 550 does the blu-ray and sounds great during movies but sucks for 2 channel play back. I don't want that to happen again by skimping up front.
That is where my concern stems from. Everything else sounds great but the blu-ray falls short in the 2 channel department. It is something that I have experienced first hand. Admittedly I was fairly certain that the Sony was only going to be a test piece for blu ray anyway. The cost of purchase was $300 so it was a middle of the road purchase at the time. It might be considered high by some even at that price. It served it's purpose proving the P/Q was unbeatable but the sound quality could be a concern. So I am concerned.
Although the prices are to some HIGH, and neither is inexpensive, I feel it behooves me to match the quality of the rest of my system and not cheap out.
Considering the investment in the other pieces of equipment this is a very small percentage. And yes it is an investment into my hobby and enjoyment.
I don't want to get to hung up on chipsets, but from my experiences Wolfson Dacs sound the best. Then Crystals, then Burr Browns. It may not be the chipset itself that is the defining factor, rather overall system design. Or when using more expensive parts you tend to build a better piece of equipment.
The Oppo is not be considered as a stepping stone upwards, it is being considered as the final destination.
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Looks to me like you just wrote a justification for the 95, Dave!
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| erikjohn wrote: | | greg_mitch wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | Thanks, Erik... That's sweet. With the 93, then I have no reason to get any sort of streambox or whatever... That saves an HDMI port and $100 or so right there. I love that it can play a BD rip with menus and all.
Dammit... Definitely starting to look like a BD-93 in my not-so-distant future. Gotta start selling off all my old stuff I'm not using anymore to pay for it, but... I think I'll even sell my HTPC case, since I don't think I really need or want an actual PC in the theater, anymore.
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This isn't really new. Quite a few play AVCHD, just not sure about the menus and such. A few will play the files over the network. If the player could rip straight to HDD, THAT would news! |
There are several things to consider. AFAIK the Oppo 93/95 is the only player out there that will recognize and play a drive formatted as NTFS which allows unlimited file sizes unlike FAT which limits file sizes. This is crucial to being able to rip to HDD without having to shrink and pull apart files without some external program and it is the only one that will play the menu's with the AVCHD workaround as I explained earlier.
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That it is not true. I have watched 20+gig MKVs on my previous LG and my current Samsung.
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Did you play them from an attached volume Greg, or did you just stream them.
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| ecrabb wrote: | Did you play them from an attached volume Greg, or did you just stream them.
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Attached on Sammy and pretty sure attached and streamed from LG. There is a thread around here somewhere...
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I picked up a BDP-93 recently as a backup/alternative to my PS3, which has let me down before, and even after being repaired twice, struggles to play some bluerays, and has recently failed to play several at all.
First thing I did after I unboxed the 93 was the required firmware update. Then I tried playing the same bluerays that the PS3 couldn't. I was surprised to discover that even this brand new OPPO player had trouble with them (it couldn't play portions of several discs) and couldn't even play one of them.
These bluerays are totally pristine. No discernible damage. They did come from Netflix. Netflix says they get all their media from the studios. They do not used duplications of any type. Netflix told me I probably still need firmware updates on both the PS3 and the OPPO, and the only way to be sure of keeping the players current is to get them on the Internet and let them update automatically.
Anyone else experienced this?
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No problems here and I have yet to connect my 93 to the internet. What disc is not playing at all and which ones are you having playback issues with ?
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| greg_mitch wrote: | | That it is not true. I have watched 20+gig MKVs on my previous LG and my current Samsung. |
Consider me corrected, thanks Greg. Regardless the 93/95 do pretty much everything and play pretty much every format and they do it a a very high level. That was the draw for me.
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| Tom.W wrote: | | No problems here and I have yet to connect my 93 to the internet. What disc is not playing at all and which ones are you having playback issues with ? |
Pinocchio: won't play in either PS3 or BDP-93.
28 Days Later: Middle section won't play
Event Horizon: Middle section won't play
All three discs look perfect, condition-wise.
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Go figure I have none of those movies to test........
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