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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
I understand Steve. But on my Marquee 8000 i had HD8's and ran 1080p@48 and it was pretty good, sure 1920 was not resolved at all but 1080 was pretty close. And 800p was a lot sharper. All i am saying is his HD 8s might be better than what you had.
When doing my set up I used the green tube and had about 9 HD 8 len's handy before I went to HD 144's all were not the same. I hand picked three HD 8's that resolved the best. Incidentally the three I choose all came from three different PJ's. And to go from there i put the worse of the three on the blue tube.


So not all HD 8s are or any lens are the same.

Oh And i had one or two lens that where so bad 1080i was bad like you noticed on yours.


I know not all HD-8's are the same, but I'm wondering if perhaps those Rev B's from the 8500's were significantly better than those from the old 12xx's... Tell me - even on the bad HD-8's... Could you at least see the scan line, or were they completely obscured? Because on the 12xx HD-8's I had, they were completely blurred to the point of being totally invisible.

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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:18 pm    Post subject:

No they were visible just not sharp.

it might be the older type HD 8's? I never had those.

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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:34 pm    Post subject:

I always thought PT-65's were better than HD-8's?
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject:

That seems to be more folklore than reality. Maybe some PT-65's were better than the old plastic HD-8's on the 12xx's... But, the set of PT-65's I had were certainly no better than any of the HD-8's I had.

Also, based on my own experience and all the comments I've read over the years, I think there might have been more than two different versions of HD-8. The all-plastic versions on the 12xx just suck ass, and I can't believe that newer machines like the 8500AC, were hamstrung with the same sh*tty HD-8's I've seen on 12xx's.

All I know is the 12xx's and Barco 800's were sold in the 1990-1993 timeframe. The most common video sources were VCR's and LaserDisc at 480i/576i. Then there were computers - the vast majority of which were 640x480 max at the time - and that was for a "graphics" computer like a color Mac II. Remember - most Intel computers were just getting Windows - heck, Windows 3.0 was released in 1990!

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject:

Hey guys... thanks. I'll definitely play around a bit when I get the HTPC set up. Will probably (eventually) see if I can't output 800 lines and see how that looks too.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Try 1066x600 @ 72 Hz
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject:

Well, how good of a job do graphics cards (I assume with the benefit of Powerstrip) do at converting images to resolutions which are not multiples of the original resolution? Doesn't this introduce a lot of artifacts?
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:04 pm    Post subject:

None that I saw when I ran my Sony 1252. I has 1024x768@72Hz for 4:3 and 1066x600@72hs for 16:9, then I got into 1080i@72 and 96Hz.
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