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Gino · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:42 am Post subject:

CZ Eddie · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1601 Location: Austin, TX

Joust,

That is the first time I've seen the same sony cable color pattern as my own. Could you tell me what colors you matched up with what colors on the Marquee? I can't tell from your pic. I can't even tell where you spliced things at. Laughing

CZ Eddie · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1601 Location: Austin, TX

Wait, nevermind... I see now that you didn't do any splicing. You just pinned the sony cables directly into the marquee connectors. Nice job indeed!
Okay, I figured out the colors now. Mine are all exactly as you have yours. Smile

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO

Barry, the connector on the KF22-11 looks like a reasonably standard 4-pin molex connector, probably like the Astig plug in your picture. Do you happen to know if it's a weird shape or anything that would make it hard to find one? Do I have to find an old 8110 and steal the plug from it? That's what Dragan thought but I figured I could find them somewhere...

Joust · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject:

yeah, they are standard Molex 0.156" housings.
astig is 4pin and the Static/Dynamic is 6 pin although 2 on the end are used for the thermistor that we are not using in this design so you could get away with a 4 piner there too.
unless you have the proper crimper to put the pins on with, you might be better off finding one to steal.
i happen to have all that stuff though. I could make you cables if you like.

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO

OK, please forgive the endless list of idiot questions, but...

This 22-11 has only one socket on it, the 4-pin molex job. The 22-11 doesn't have astig windings (right?) so there is no astig socket. Apparently the Sony / 22-22 / (?) coils use a 6-pin connector? But 2 of those are for a thermistor, so no worries. I haven't torn my 8500 apart recently, but if I remember right there is a 4-wire line (blue purple white gray? or is that astig?) that goes to the focus coil. So I just need to get a molex connector that fits the 22-11 and splice it into the 4-wire line. Or create an "extension" that goes from the 22-11 connector to whatever plugs into the current 8500 coil. But you're saying those molex connectors need special crimpers so maybe I should just find one with wires that I could steal. Hmm.

I wouldn't have to ask quite so many dumb questions if CJ's pix were still up, sorry 'bout that...

Joust · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject:

well I have never seen the connector on a so called 2211. the connector on the sony 1-452-811-11 (formerly called 22-22) has a 9 pin connector. this connector is NOT molex AFAIK.
the Molex connector i was referring to is the ones that mate with he Marquee boards. All the pictures CJ put up had the connector removed and he soldered wires directly into the board.

ok so to wire your 2211 to a 8000 you need a 6 pin molex to mate to the marquee and whatever that Japanese connector is. if we cannot get that connector, do like CJ did and solder the wore in directly. or put a different type of header in the yoke board.

tse · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 1014 Location: Sweatbucket, Fl.

The KD mag connector....

http://www.jst-mfg.com/ProductGuideE/pdf_e/eEH.pdf

Digi-key has them. You can solder the wires to the pins if you are careful.

Scott

Joust · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:25 am Post subject:

I have some of those. 4 pin and 7 pin ones. is it a 4 pin on the 2211?

BTW, where is that 2211 yoke from? what projector? I'd like to find some for experimentation.

CZ Eddie · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1601 Location: Austin, TX

tse · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 1014 Location: Sweatbucket, Fl.

Joust · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:08 am Post subject:

what model ampro uses these?
what other yokes do they use. I'd like to get hold of a set that has astig control.

cmjohnson · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5180 Location: Buried under G90s

Those 2211 focus yokes do indeed come from MOST AmPros. At least, every AmPro I've personally seen that had
Panasonic tubes in it, had those focus yokes. Several of those were donor chassis, ready to be stripped for usable
parts, including those yokes. I THINK that at least some AmPros that had Sony tubes also had those yokes.

I decided to try a 2211 in my 8000 on a lark. And look where that led... Shocked

I'm very glad that some of you are continuing the development of this idea. I'm simply not in a position
anymore to do any further development on it as I sold off my last PJ except for my own personal unit,
which of course sports Mk. IIs.

I never seriously considered getting the mating connectors to fit the stock 2211 yokes, opting instead to
solder the wires to the board in the name of reliability. A soldered connection, if done right, is more reliable
than any connector.

But it's a bit trickier, too.

CJ

Joust · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:51 am Post subject:

On behalf of the entire community and as one who has benefited from your initial work, I Thank you CJ. Thumbs Up

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:25 am Post subject:

Uhhhh ohh I can feel the Ampro's colective GULP. SO besides the ES models most Ampro's use these coils? Does that mean the Ampro's ahve better spot focus?

Joust · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:29 am Post subject:

No. it just means that we will be hunting them for their parts Twisted Evil

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:30 am Post subject:

Has to be said: Be vewey vewey quiet we're hunting Ampro's

CZ Eddie · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1601 Location: Austin, TX

I've got a set of 22-11's that I paid $70 for earlier this year that I'd be willing to sell.

The ampro 4000's did not have these focus coils, btw. But it's an ES machine, which as you mentioned above, would not have the 22-11's.

Joust · Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:02 am Post subject:

Do they actually have 2211 on them somewhere?
what model PJ are they from?

CZ Eddie · Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 1601 Location: Austin, TX