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mistagreg



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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject:

This site is great! Turns out this projector is an Ultra! Thanks for the link!
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject:

I disagree with with everyone, some like super bright some like big. I like Big and really didn't care how dim my Marquee 8000 was on my 12 foot wide 16.9 screen. I enjoyed it for years like that.

Its all personal preference. Since you had a 8 inch LC lighting that screen before and you loved it then this will be an improvement, not much but still an improvement.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject:

I am a bit lost... where are the controls to adjust convergence/geometry for Blue & Red. I tried the guided thing, but it puts me through a rough point convergence path. With NEC i could access the geometry for each color directly. Is there a similar thing with this projector.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject:

Use random access in the geometry control. You'll want to converge green first to make sure its all straight. that is Conv>Service>0901>
then use random access to straighten out green. The id use Interpolated in the Normal Convergence menu, then touch up with random access.

Geometry controls are a separate button and put in a list. You can do Geometry while in the Green convergence service menu or in the regular convergence menu. You dont have to leave and save convergence to do Geometry. One thing also Make sure you unlock the Memory location or all your changes will be lost after power down cycle. So go to utilities, source and 3( this toggles a locked or unlocked for that source memory.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject:

Are there separate controls for Tilt/Skew, Bow, Key, Pin, etc. for Red & Blue?

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject:

mistagreg wrote:
Are there separate controls for Tilt/Skew, Bow, Key, Pin, etc. for Red & Blue?

-Greg


No, it does them together. Convergence will adjust the rest.

before you do any set up zero out the settings. in convergence , any type ie. random, guided etc press "0" this will set it all to default.

now look at the grids, are any tilted and not level to horizon? if so then it be best to reset the deflection yolk on the tube.

On tims site it details how its done.

If all is ok then do geometry then convergence.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject:

Thanks. I saw the article on Tim's site. I will use it. NEC wants you to use all other controls before rough point convergence, so i was reluctant to go further.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject:

Well you can do it any way you want. Some like to do convergence of not geometrically correct grids then adjust geometry and go back again and do convergence. either way you still will have to go back and touch up one or the other. I have done it both ways.

But do Geometry basics first. Pin,Skew,keystone and leave bow alone for now. Then do Green convergence and then do convergence interpolated and then touch up with random access.

But first follow the mechanical Guided set up. this will line up grids first before any convergence. The less convergence you use the less convergence will drift.

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mistagreg



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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:05 pm    Post subject:

This is where i am getting lost:
Nashou66 wrote:
But do Geometry basics first. Pin,Skew,keystone and leave bow alone for now. Then do Green convergence and then do convergence interpolated and then touch up with random access.


For this set, I only have geometry for Green. Convergence on the Vision is equivilant to rough point convergence on the NEC. On the NEC, Green cannot be converged because Red & Blue get converged to Green. On the NEC, I would align Green (equivilant to Geometry?) with Skew, Tilt, Key, Pin, etc. Then Converge Red & Blue to Green with Skew, Tilt, Key, Pin... I did not need any Point (rough or fine) if all the other setup was done expertly.

So, What does Green get converged to on the Vision? ... an imaginary grid or blue tape placed on the screen

[though it is fun to learn a new way to do this... the terms seem to be quite different between these two projectors]
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject:

Well sometimes Green needs no convergence, But its there incase of extraordinary circumstances with mounting locations etc deems it necessary to alter the green Grid, or if the grid has slight bumps and dips etc.

it also comes in handy when Stacking or Edge blending where you need to adjust one green to another Green grid.

Youll find a Marquee is much easier to set up than a NEC due to less controls.

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject:

Is there a way to use an ISS-6010 switcher with this projector?

-Greg
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject:

Yes if you add a NEC Moome Card in the switcher.

That is for Blu Ray right?

Other wise it will work with normal RGB sources as is

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject:

The switcher will not turn on... The Remote1 has 15 pins. The Vision has 9. Do I need a special cable? My switcher has Moome's card.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject:

You dont connect the Switcher to the marquee's RS 232 connectors if thats what you mean?

The NEC should have RGBHV bnc's out. those should go to the VIM on the marquee.

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject:

When connect the BNC cables, the iss switcher will not turn on.
-Greg
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:18 pm    Post subject:

isn't there a power switch somewhere?

I dont own one so not sure what else to do. I know they also had a remote.

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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:59 pm    Post subject:

I had been using this switcher with my NEC 9PGxtra. It was connected with the Remote1 to the projector as well as the RGBHV cable. I see in the manual it can be used standalone with an input and an RGBHV output without the control cable. However, once the power is connected, I get a reading of E3 on the display. Pressing th power button on the front does nothing. It still works when I hookup the NEC projector/with control cable. I can't find any info on dip switches or other setting to change to a "switcher" only mode. I will try any suggestions.

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mistagreg



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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:24 am    Post subject:

The dip switches on the control card (used to select master or slave) are the ones used to set as stand alone. Set them all off or down to remove the E3 message and it will operate as a switcher.

BTW, the projector is on wheels right now. I compared an 96" screen with 130" with a bluray from a PS3 @ 1080p. The picture is great at 130". I can barely see the difference.
-Greg
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mistagreg



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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject:

So, I got it all setup (on the floor). I'm still working with the focus, but must say this thing is sooo much better than my XG 135LC. My goal was to get to 1080p, but I got so much more.
-Greg
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject:

mistagreg wrote:
So, I got it all setup (on the floor). I'm still working with the focus, but must say this thing is sooo much better than my XG 135LC. My goal was to get to 1080p, but I got so much more.
-Greg


Ben? ben? Where are you? ben?

lol

Sorry a forum member here that thinks marquee's are not as good.


Glad you like it. And you like your large screen others say is too big !!! Wink


Athanasios

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