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danielparker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: 9500LC Lens Recommendation (And WTB I guess) |
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Hi,
I have a 1998 Marque 9500LC with 10L Lenses.. My issue is my screen is not small 
I have a 4.2m x 1.8m 2.35:1 Screen (Which, if Pythagorus' theory is correct is 4.57M diagonal - Approx 180 inches)
Here is a 3 year old photo.. not much has changed. Screen is Da-lite Audio Vision.. Gain is 1.0
My question is, what would be the best lenses for me to get for this screen size? I'm guessing (in worst to best order):
GT17
HD10F (From a 1292)
HD10F (From a G90)
HFQ900
Would I be correct? Obviously there is a price / performance equation in the mix somewhere, but I don't know what would give best bang for the buck.
If you have a set to sell, please PM me.. Im in New Zealand.. so shipping is a must.
Regards
Daniel Parker
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Nashou66
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Tim in Phoenix
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: 9500LC Lens Recommendation (And WTB I guess) |
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| danielparker wrote: | Hi,
Here is a 3 year old photo.. not much has changed. Screen is Da-lite Audio Vision.. Gain is 1.0
Im in New Zealand.. so shipping is a must.
Regards
Daniel Parker |
You are primed to do edge blending, perfect screen size and 1.0 gain. You should try to visit Gino in Cairns and see his edge blended setup!
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mp20748
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Location: Maryland
TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra / Super 02 and 03 VIM
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For that size screen, you'll need either the HFQ900 or the 10GT26 lenses.
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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What are you getting on your light output? It must be like 3 or 4 ft/lmbs. I would blend for that screen size.
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danielparker
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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More info:
I run it at 817 x 1920, via a Moome card via HDMI from a PC. I have done the 235:1 mod so I can squeeze vertically to this ratio.
Light output has never really been a problem, although I have no numbers. The room is 100% light controlled.. even in the middle of the day you can't see your hand in front of your face with the lights out.
A blend is not an real option for me..
As I run at 235:1, does this give me any leeway with lenses, as my corners are not as extreme as 16:9 or 4:3, or does it not matter?
HFQ900 or 10GT26 lenses sound hard to find
Looking the other direction (Old 1208 on the roof.. Now my 9500 is up there):
Daniel
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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A blend might not be an option, but a maid might be.
Why isn't a blend an option? You are using a PC. There are now a couple of software options for blending with a PC from a couple of hundred dollars to free.
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dvh99
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | A blend might not be an option, but a maid might be.
Why isn't a blend an option? You are using a PC. There are now a couple of software options for blending with a PC from a couple of hundred dollars to free. |
nothing compared to the mess i live in 
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danielparker
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This room is a 'work in progress'.. but yes, it does require a clean up.
A blend is not an option as it would require a 2nd 9500.. and I only have one.. (and a Barco 1208, but I don't see that working).. also roof mounting two projectors sounds hard.
Daniel
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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I understand what you are saying. Being in NZ, I am guessing that shipping is expensive. Still, I think two 8500s would be better than one 9500. I will leave Nash to make an opinion on that.
On the lenses, I wouldn't spend that much on them based on the size of your screen.
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kal
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| danielparker wrote: | | Light output has never really been a problem, although I have no numbers. The room is 100% light controlled.. even in the middle of the day you can't see your hand in front of your face with the lights out. |
But in the end the total light output on a 1 gain screen can't be any higher than 3-4 ftL I'm guessing. It may look fine, but that's only because you're used to it. If you saw what 10-13 ftL looked like you're prefer it a lot more I think.
Kal
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Nashou66
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | I understand what you are saying. Being in NZ, I am guessing that shipping is expensive. Still, I think two 8500s would be better than one 9500. I will leave Nash to make an opinion on that.
On the lenses, I wouldn't spend that much on them based on the size of your screen. |
Your right there Eric. When i was first starting the blend and had it on the floor i also had a 9500LC set up.
the two 8500's were much brighter than the single 9500LC. After seeing the difference, not only in brightness but in clarity only a blend can give, I moved the 9500LC out of the theater and its sitting in the same spot since.
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | What are you getting on your light output? It must be like 3 or 4 ft/lmbs. I would blend for that screen size. |
I would buy a digital for a screen that size
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mp20748
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| danielparker wrote: |
HFQ900 or 10GT26 lenses sound hard to find
Daniel |
I have a good set of 10GT26 lenses - FREE - but that's only if you were able to show up and take them away.
I don't want to get into shipping them anywhere or trying to figure out how to box them up. And I don't want to get paid to make that happen either.
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MikeEby
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I would also paint your walls a darker color...Your will loose a lot of contrast from the white walls. By far the easiest thing to do.
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danielparker
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Hmm.. Thanks for the offer Mike.. I'm not quite sure on how to take you up on it.. I don't suppose there is anyone reading that can collect from Mike on my behalf, box & ship etc.. Obviously I would have to make it worth your while.. Flights from NZ to Maryland don't make it easy to do in person.
Daniel Parker
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danielparker
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| kal wrote: | | danielparker wrote: | | Light output has never really been a problem, although I have no numbers. The room is 100% light controlled.. even in the middle of the day you can't see your hand in front of your face with the lights out. |
But in the end the total light output on a 1 gain screen can't be any higher than 3-4 ftL I'm guessing. It may look fine, but that's only because you're used to it. If you saw what 10-13 ftL looked like you're prefer it a lot more I think.
Kal |
I had better not see 10+ ftL then.. that way I have nothing to be jealous of
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danielparker
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| MikeEby wrote: | | I would also paint your walls a darker color...Your will loose a lot of contrast from the white walls. By far the easiest thing to do. |
I would, but I am not allowed too..
I wanted the whole room to be black.. I managed the roof and front to be dark purple, and that was as far as I got on that discussion.
Daniel
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cmjohnson
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Like everbody says, your screen is far too big for a single 9" machine. If you doubt that, try bringing the PJ in closer and see what it looks like when the screen is "only" 8 feet wide...or seven feet, or 6 feet.
You will get a much richer, more satisfying picture.
Seriously, there is no reason at all why a blend isn't an option for you. I think you can afford getting another 9500 and I do believe
it could easily fit into your system.
Lenses won't fix your problems. A second PJ WILL.
Get another 9500LC with good tubes, and between the two machines, two sets of HD10GT17s or maybe some HD10Fs. HD10E/HFQ900s
would be the best way to go, but they're in short supply and high demand.
CJ
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