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Spanky Ham



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject:

I might add that not a lot of people have visited, even though I believe Scott has kept an open invitation to anyone that wants to drop by.


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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:49 am    Post subject:

karmat63 wrote:
Just a bit OT question..
is yet important to get tinted C-elements, if you own something as a Radiance with is extensive capacity of 3D gamut correction? I guess, if you can correct color primaries and secondaries by electronics, it could be better preserving light output keeping clear C elements?


Yes. It's important to get tinted c-elements. A video processor can only lessen oversaturated colours. (ie: pull in the colours towards 6500K). It can't push out.

So in other words, if your red isn't "red" enough, the Radiance (or any other video processor) can't do anything about it.

The typical problem is that most digital projectors have oversaturated greens. Something like a Radiance can be used to pull in or "tame" that oversaturation. Nothing can push it farther out to more saturated.

CRT projectors with tinted c-element or tinted glycol are pretty close (for the most part) to bang on for primary/secondary colours.

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Spanky Ham



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:56 am    Post subject:

I thought red was pushed out. Is that not able to be brought back in with a CMS? Since I have only owned pjs with tinted elements or lenses, I have never thought about a CMS with a CRT.

As for making new c-elements, it shouldn't be that hard.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject:

Spanky Ham wrote:


Don't lie! I know you swiped one of those 9500 split packs or maybe a tube and put it in your pants. Sir, do you have one of our tubes or are you hung like a donkey?Mr. Green



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Spanky Ham



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject:

The split pack, the tube or dturco's trouser snake? Hmmmm, tough call! The trooouuu, I mean split pack. Mr. Green
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karmat63



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject:

kal wrote:
karmat63 wrote:
Just a bit OT question..
is yet important to get tinted C-elements, if you own something as a Radiance with is extensive capacity of 3D gamut correction? I guess, if you can correct color primaries and secondaries by electronics, it could be better preserving light output keeping clear C elements?


Yes. It's important to get tinted c-elements. A video processor can only lessen oversaturated colours. (ie: pull in the colours towards 6500K). It can't push out.

So in other words, if your red isn't "red" enough, the Radiance (or any other video processor) can't do anything about it.

The typical problem is that most digital projectors have oversaturated greens. Something like a Radiance can be used to pull in or "tame" that oversaturation. Nothing can push it farther out to more saturated.

CRT projectors with tinted c-element or tinted glycol are pretty close (for the most part) to bang on for primary/secondary colours.

Kal


Thanks Kal for your answer;
I was thinking about Red primary; we know that, without tinted red C element, the red is shifted to green (i.e.: red too orange), but it is a little bit oversaturated too, so, I guess, there would be room to dial perfectly the red primary on HD709 red, by CMS, without using red tinted C-elements...

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HK-Steve



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject:

You need to do a correction on one of your pics,

"Vims waiting to be tested" are CLM's


Otherwise good pics. Sounds like Scott needs to start selling tickets for admission.


So where is the VDC museum?? those proto-types should have been looked after not just pushed aside.
The LED looks interesting.


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dturco



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject:

HK-Steve wrote:
You need to do a correction on one of your pics,

"Vims waiting to be tested" are CLM's


Otherwise good pics. Sounds like Scott needs to start selling tickets for admission.


So where is the VDC museum?? those proto-types should have been looked after not just pushed aside.
The LED looks interesting.


Cheers
Steve


Damn It. I was waiting to see what anal geek would point that out.... J/K

I saw that last night and was waiting to see if any one else would pick it up. Embarassed

Fixed. lol:

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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject:

Spanky Ham wrote:
The split pack, the tube or dturco's trouser snake? Hmmmm, tough call! The trooouuu, I mean split pack. Mr. Green



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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject:

I think this pic says it all, Still using CRT monitors for their Computers!!!!!


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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
I think this pic says it all, Still using CRT monitors for their Computers!!!!!


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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject:

Scott, for 2 years I have been reading your location as SWEET BUCKET Embarassed

Your actual location name is hilarious, now that I've been there and met you. To funny. Laughing Laughing Laughing

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