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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: HD117-24 lenses for my 808LC |
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I found a set of lenses in subject.
They appear in good condition and I think that are fully compatible with original barco's supports.
Which is the just price for these set?
Thank you
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Elaine Benes
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1416
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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I've thrown out two sets for total lack of interest, so they should be pretty cheap...
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papalek
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: Longs SC
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:54 am Post subject: |
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The 24s are hard to find. They will focus on large screens. I focused a set on my 10' wide screen with no problem. The 12s are easy to find but only focus on very small screens. But they are not a lens with a lot of interest so they should be almost nothing.
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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:06 am Post subject: |
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... the seller ask 540 dollars for a set
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papalek
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: Longs SC
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Decibel wrote: | ... the seller ask 540 dollars for a set  |
CRAZY!!!! He must have really good crack he is smoking. I sold my set for about $120 4 years ago and we all know what has happened to prices since then.
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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| papalek wrote: | | Decibel wrote: | ... the seller ask 540 dollars for a set  |
CRAZY!!!! He must have really good crack he is smoking. I sold my set for about $120 4 years ago and we all know what has happened to prices since then. |
eheheheheheh
eBay number 320589817108
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bbfarmht
Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 1273 Location: Where the Mississippi runs east to west!!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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if I wasn't already moding hd-18's for my 808 id be trying to find these lenses also!!
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papalek
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1536 Location: Longs SC
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| Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Decibel wrote: | | papalek wrote: | | Decibel wrote: | ... the seller ask 540 dollars for a set  |
CRAZY!!!! He must have really good crack he is smoking. I sold my set for about $120 4 years ago and we all know what has happened to prices since then. |
eheheheheheh
eBay number 320589817108 |
Asking price is not selling price. Besides we all know things are herder to find outside the US.
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bbfarmht
Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 1273 Location: Where the Mississippi runs east to west!!
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I have been pondering replacing my runco 933 with my 808 that I have done a lc conversion on. Do you guys know how close the focusing of the 145s are to the 117-12's?
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papalek
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: |
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The 12's will only do really small screens.
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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Can I use HD117-24 lenses with Sony G70 C-elements?
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noos@xp37+
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Berlin/Munich
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Hello from Munich,
I have bought one set of the 24´s a year ago, to convert my RVP4010 to fp. But until now I only swapped to the hd215 lenses, because I did not had to change the elements. But I also have the Barco elements here. I have never changed elements, but I will have to, because I want to build a curved screen. But I don´t know how much curve the 24´s can handle. Thats why I also bought the G70 elements, to use them wit the HD18/134 lenses for curve. But I still have to buy the HD18/134.
But I know and love the throw distance of the 24´s. CRT screen distance is the same as screen width, I was told! So great if I would stay on a flat screen. Here in Europe the 24´s are rare like hen´s teeth, because many peaple want to convert Retrographics 808s to fp, or swap the tubes for a LC conersion of a fp machine. But sounds like I was lucky: Seller asked for 180 Euros, and I offered less and receives them. But I was searching one year!
Best regards
Marc
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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I am waiting a set of these lenses bought from a very kind user of this forum (thank you Jörg)
I hope that they are compatible for my color corrected G70 c-elements, otherwise I will swap them with the original Barco c-elements (but they are clear).
Sto aspettando una terna di queste lenti acquistata da un utente molto gentile di questo forum (grazie Jörg)
Spero che siano compatibili con i miei c-element colorati provenienti da un G70, altrimenti li cambiero' con i c-element originali Barco (che pero' sono chiari).
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Decibel
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Ile
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1491 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think color filtered 8" c-elements (same for HD-18, HD-134 and HD-215) have different radius for concave than Barco 8" c-element (HD117), so those probably aren't working correct when mixed.
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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Ile wrote: | | I think color filtered 8" c-elements (same for HD-18, HD-134 and HD-215) have different radius for concave than Barco 8" c-element (HD117), so those probably aren't working correct when mixed. |
So I must swap color filtered c-elements with original clear Barco c-elements?
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Ile
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1491 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland
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| Decibel wrote: | | So I must swap color filtered c-elements with original clear Barco c-elements? |
Probably. Don't have first hand information, but remember reading about this.
If c-elements have different concavity, glycol between tubes face and c-element forms totally different lens that have wrong optical properties for rest of lens assembly.
But you can compare G70 and Barco c-elements concavity if you have both there. Cut template from paper or board...
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Decibel
Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 904 Location: Roma - Italia
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I have both and I'm sure that circumference is the same because I swapped c-elements when I maked LC conversion.
I hope next week to compare concavity.
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noos@xp37+
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 464 Location: Berlin/Munich
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| Ile wrote: | | I think color filtered 8" c-elements (same for HD-18, HD-134 and HD-215) have different radius for concave than Barco 8" c-element (HD117), so those probably aren't working correct when mixed. |
Ile,
does this mean hd18 and hd215 work with the same C-Elements???
Decibel,
congratulation on the 24´s! They should resolve really good, because I can remember a post in AVS with testpattern sscreenshots- showing that they fully resolved 1080p! That was also the name of the post...sth like 117.24\-24 plus 1080p if someone wants to dig. But I really read a lot on the 24´s, and highender complaining that there was no filtered elements for the elements. They had to swap the elements for using HD18. But let us know your findings! ....I don´t have the ring on the screwholes - I think thats an adaptor?
Best regards
Marc
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Ile
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1491 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland
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| noos@xp37+ wrote: | Ile,
does this mean hd18 and hd215 work with the same C-Elements??? |
That's my understanding, but I can remember wrong.
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