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**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject:

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

Doesnt the DVI connector have to be DVI-D, dual link?

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

yes i have dvi to hdmi 1.5 foot cable

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

ok, i checked and the cable is NOT a dvi-d dual link. could that be it? the cable is hdmi dvi cable 28 awg with ferrite cores (gold plated) as it reads on the receipt from monoprice.

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

i looked and i cannot find a dvi-d dual link to hdmi cable anywhere.
jeff

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

I think I used the one that came with the hdfury1 advanced kit.

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

Monoprice.
6FT HDMI Male to DVI-D Male CABLE for HDTV PLASMA DIGITAL VIDEO
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023102&p_id=2218&seq=1&format=2

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

i bought the fury 3 with gamma x package it came with a boatload of cables but not a dvi
jeff

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

thanks, i give it a shot it cant hurt to try we've tried almost everything else.

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

I'm not saying that will fix your problem. better to get one of the hdfury support guys to chime in here.
I'm not even sure the ts-160 has dvi-d.

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

ok, i'll wait and see if someone picks up on this thread.
thanks jeff

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

You might try searching the HDFury threads to see if there is any mention of whether it has to be DVI-D.

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject:

It definitely has to be DVI-D... The HD Fury is converting digital to analog, so if you connected an analog device, there wouldn't be anything to convert from digital. Wink

And, yes - the SIR-TS160 is definitely DVI-D... You wouldn't be getting any picture at all if it weren't.

This definitely sounds like a handshake issue to me. You can go to a bunch of hassle trying different cables, etc... But an easier method might be a totally different HDTV OTA receiver. Considering they're not too expensive, a slightly newer one with HDMI might be the easiest. Of course, you'll probably still want a DVI-D to HDMI cable, so I guess that's not a waste either way.

I agree with trying a shorter cable bypassing the switch, then trying a short DVI-HDMI cable.

SC

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa

Thanks for all the input, well after spending several hours surfing looking for info on the ts 160 i found a forum where a user posted that the maximum cable length out of the ts 160 dvi is 11 feet then it started showing the same problem i was having. so i went to lowes and got some connectors made up a 35 ft length of coax moved the ts 160 under the pj set it on a ladder hooked up the 1.5 ft dvi to hdmi cable to the fury 3 turned on the pj and viola! a beutiful 1080i picture that doesnt flash on and off. Now i have to figure out what is the best course of action to take. Should i buy a 35 ft dvi to hdmi cable attach it to port 2 on the fury 3 and hope the monoprice switcher was the problem or try to SOMEHOW move the ts 160 right next to the pj and run audio cables back to the rest of the system. To be honest i am so relieved it works i dont knoe how to act. if i do try the 35 foot cable route which would be much preferred i have no idea what cable to buy so any help in that department would be appreciated.Again thank you all for all your help.It means alot to me. jeff

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:41 am Post subject:

Jeff that's what I suspected was the case. The best course of action may be to run longer RGBHV cables and use a shorter cable set for the HDMI. The HDfury3 can drive 50 foot analog cables and the GammaX can go out to 60+ so you would be OK there.

Check out bluejeans cables BNC to BNC cables.

Belden 1694A RGBHV or RGBS Cables
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/rgbhv/index.htm

You'll also need a set of 5 female to female BNC couplers like these:
http://www.amazon.com/BNC-Female-Adapter/dp/B0002KR0A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1280190665&sr=8-1

Your other option is to get a buffered (amplified ) HDMI switcher that can take the weak signal from your TS-160 and amplify it to drive the 35 foot cable.

dvh99 · Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland

hdmi uses single link and dvi-d dual link uses 2 links of course.
hdmi single link is good for 330 mhz pixelclock max and dvi single link up to 165 mhz (good enough for 1920*1080 60 hz but not good enough for 1920*1080 72 or 75 hz.
connecting a dvi cable to a dual link dvi adapter to hdmi(they do exist, i have 2 and they are 24+1 pins) doesnt work cause the hdmi uses only 1 link so its restricted to 165mhz despite the dual link adapter.
there are dual link hdmi connectors but they are bigger (wider) and have more pins.
running long hdmi cable runs requires quality cables like blue jeans.

get the series 1 like it says on the website.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-dvi-cables/index.htm

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:23 am Post subject:

dvh99 · Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland

??
wouldnt do that.
better to use a high quality dvi-hdmi cable and a very short bnc cable.
what i do not understand is that hdfury doesnt bring out a model with bnc out instead of vga, vga isnt a 75ohm terminal and bnc is.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:48 am Post subject:

dvh99 · Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland

sorry i missed that part about the ts160 and the max cable length.
i have an internal moome and it works perfectly well so no need for a hdfury4, yet Wink

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