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[macgyver655]

Hahahahaha. I was doing a little searching and I found our buddy westom on another site. After a post or 2 by him this was the reply from another member...

"And here w_tom goes into his trademark pompous ass routine."

Could you be running out of forum friends westom?

[macgyver655]

Well here's another one from a different forum. Looks like you've been pissing people off all over the web for years now, lol.

" Default Re: W_Tom - what is the part number/model of your whole houseprotector?
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:27:44 -0400, Rôgêr wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>> Here is a question you can't squirm you way out of - what is the part
>> number/model of the whole house protector you use in YOUR HOME?
>>
>> Now, you can't complain about distance, all you have to do is find your
>> service entrance and go check the part number - let us know the part
>> number and vendor name so we can see what you feel is the necessary level
>> of protection for your own home.
>>
>
> I can't believe it. A post from Leythos that isn't totally devoted to an
> impotent attempt to skewer PCButts1. Can't you find something else to
> do? Is you whole life devoted to tracking down and pansy assed farting
> up the skirts of people better than you? Jesus H. ****ing Christ.

Actually, like BUTTS, w_tom just avoids the truth and has his own
religious beliefs that refuses reality. If you read the threads you would
know that, but thanks for trolling and enjoying the show.

[macgyver655]

Wow. I had a little time and did some searching and again, wow. westom is on site after site after site preaching his stuff and calling people dumb and pissing people off for years. And much of his posting seems to be the same CnP as here and this goes back years.

I think you thrive on this controversy westom. The pages and pages that I have just read on your conversations with others is just staggering. I cant believe you like abusing people like you do. I am actually shocked.

[CasetheCorvetteman]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Thats funny!! I got a good laugh from that one MacGyver, good researching!!

[dturco]

[westom]

[macgyver655]

You need to go away westom. I spent some more time last night reading your crap on other forums and you do nothing more then abuse people. Time after time forum members have told you to go away. And this has been going on since at least 2001 if not longer. And I read from at least 20 other forums and there were still more.

I actually now consider you a spammer of sorts. If you dont stop your crap I will request that you be banned, like you have been banned from some other forums.

I strongly advise other members here to stop posting to this abuser. I have nothing more to say to you westom other then you have a real problem and need to seek some help.

And I'm ashamed to even have had a conversation with you at all. Your twisted abuse to others is just sickening.

[westom]

[macgyver655]

To be honest I am a little surprised at how few others responded in comment in this thread. I tried to stay out of the original conversation until you attacked another knowledgeable member. I commented in their defense. Maybe I am wrong. Perhaps I should be the one to leave here.

[HaydnG90]

Wish I had the time to write this much crap....Hey W'om get a life, man and stop wasting bandwidth.

[macgyver655]

[CasetheCorvetteman]

[macgyver655]

Geez, I'm gone for a day and all is quiet. Where's my buddy westom. I thought for sure you would have a comment on my posts.

You know, I was a little confused on your post here.

[Sparky015]

I've been on the sidelines watching on this one. Westom's explaination of the theory is right on to what was taught me in college, and have enjoyed reading his theory, just not the extra innings chit chat, which is why I've stayed out.

A few comments, first, I agree, his posts could be a bit more professor-like and less demeaning. If he would do that, I think his posts would be a bit more accepted as his theory is right on, and there is always something to learn when you couple theory to real world applications. Westom, take it as contructive criticsm, or else no one will acept what you say, regardless if you are speaking truth. The ESD post was just not warranted, and lost credibility with a lot of members.

Second, I think on the basic principles, your all saying the same thing. The hangup I think is this: I don't think Westom has said that just earth ground and a whole house protector will protect from every strike, What he has said is that it takes the odds from 1 every seven years to 1 in 60? (I think, can't remember the numbers exactly, but that was the purpose of the years, more of an odds thing). What that is saying is, it takes the probability to near zero, enough that a Best Buy surge protector, or unplugging appliances is not needed unless your luck is REALLY bad. This is why if you look at the datasheets, it's clear it won't save you in every lightening application, but protect your house and it's electrical devices from the vast majority. An APS type device would be more for battery backup and power conditioning if you find you need it for your app than surge protection. With that said, yes, unplugging your appliances is the only way to protect yourself from every situation, but how often does a strike hit close enough and with enough energy to overcome the protection in place? I don't know the answer to that, and I imagine it varies based on your locale, but the odds have to be huge, and I think that's what he's trying to get across, just not in the best way The odds are so large, but if the general public (who lack electrical knowledge) understood that, then the surge protection product manufacturers wouldn't sell their $1000 fancy looking protectors, so they do a little propaganda and paint worst-case scenarios to you so you'll buy.

Hopefully I helped both sides, here. Like I said, enjoyable read accept for the extra batting practice. Westom, work on the post skills a little, and I think your good. You have the knowledge, just need to work on the delivery.

[macgyver655]

[jkruger]

If you really want to protect your equipment you can always just cut the power cords off!

[Sparky015]

[Sparky015]

[David_Web]

I don't think any one is arguing against that you need a really good ground and protector if you want to stay relatively safe if a lightning bolt hit your incoming lines.
Or that it is not possible to protect 100%
Or that overly expensive surge protector is a waste of money just like expensive power cables.

The constant CnP, saying that any in-house protector is useless, UPS won't protect at all (which I have seen it do, died in duty), and numerous attacks and attempts to discredit others just because their posts did not fit in with his vision. And the constant refuse to answer key questions posted by members.
That and many other reasons got people a little ticked off. Which generally leads to a downwards moving spiral. And probably some misunderstanding due to wording didn't help ether.

[David_Web]