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wallace123456
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Northwest VA area
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:53 am Post subject: CRT Blacks rule!! True story! |
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Our HT and 6pg xtra got a great compliment this past weekend.
So, my wife’s step-mom and her new husband (both about 75 years old) stops by for a few days. They see the HT and can’t wait to watch something. Friday night we watch Star-Trek and they were blown away.
Saturday, we watch Avatar (first time for all of us) and we are ALL blown away.
But the real compliment comes in at the end of Avatar. The husband says to my wife’s step-mom, “You see how the black levels look so good?!! Much better than that plasma we have.”
I could not believe what I heard!! That was GREAT!!!! The guy is not a technical type person what-so-ever. But, he knew a good thing when he saw it!!
Compliment should be extended to Ken as he did some tuning (set-up) after I had rebuilt the 6pg xtra about 10 times!!
wallace
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akajester
Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 934 Location: Wisconsin
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my relatives don't notice anything like that, so that is a surprise. they'd be like, wow the picture is purdy. hehe.
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Jim Shonk
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Zanesville Ohio
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I had a very similar experience, I smiled for 2 days about it
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Must be a crap plasma.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26706 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TV/Projector: Sony 1252Q, AMPRO 4000G
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | | Must be a crap plasma. |
Mark, can we change your name to downer?
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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Just being realistic.
We bang our chests about how good we think our 10-20 year old projectors are.....well, wake up, times have changed.
Only the very top end CRTs are competive now.
My $1700 plasma is just stunning. Black is black. Sharp, no pixels. The only fault I can find is it runs 24p material at 48hz, while the higher models in the range use 72 or 96hz. Flicker is *just* noticeable if I look at it out of the corner of my eye.
My 1251 was $2000, and this just spanks it six ways from Sunday (abet it's a smaller screen).
My XG is blurry compared to the Plasma, and compared to the (new) digital cinema projectors. Unless you have a G90/909/1209/9500, you are no longer better than ordinary consumer stuff.
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WanMan
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 10270
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Ignorance is bliss and cowsumers have a lot of ignorance.
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akajester
Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 934 Location: Wisconsin
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| Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark_A_W wrote: | Just being realistic.
We bang our chests about how good we think our 10-20 year old projectors are.....well, wake up, times have changed.
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La la la, not listening, la la la. (with fingers in his ears).
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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hahahahahahahaahaha
hahahahahahahahahaah
Stop, your making my stomach hurt!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stop it Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahhahahahah Stop it!!!!!!!
hahahahahaahaahahaahahhahaa
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perisoft
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 2920 Location: Ithaca, NY
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+1 Mark. And -1 to the guys who cling to foolishness with religious ferocity - as I've said to AR: Just admit you like the stuff. I do; it's cool, and the price/performance for me is a winner. But me claiming my 808 will stomp a new $3k digital is like my claiming that my Saab 9-5 is faster than a new M3 just because I like it.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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Here's the problem. When you guys use this comparison claim you are only thinking image quality. When I make comparison comments I use image, build, longevity and repair cost.
And in these comparison scenarios, CRT RULES............................. PERIOD!!!!!
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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And I'm leaving out image size vs cost along with digital artifacts. Oh, and a big one...... a very poor white....(plasma)
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VideoGrabber
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 933 Location: Michigan
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Mark_A_W commented:
> My XG is blurry compared to the Plasma... <
Really? Wow! So do you have an 8' wide Plasma? Or is your XG running on a 50" diagonal screen?
If size is meaningless (not a factor) then we can set up bogus comparisons like this all day long.
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 3068 Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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At a similar viewing angle.
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winduptoy
Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 187 Location: Lunenburg, Nova Scotia
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Huge gains in performance have been realized in affordable flat panels in the past 2 years. I now have a flat panel in the BR and the picture is great with HD content. If I watch it in a completely dark room, I do notice the blacks are elevated compared to the CRT downstairs. It doesn't take much ambient light to mask the lack of real black and that is, after all how we watch it.
Flat Panel Pros: Light output, cost, sharpness, quietness and small footprint. Cons: Artifacts (esp with non native res. stuff), small viewing angle.
CRT PJ Pros: Blacks, image size, lack of artifacts, color accuracy, humungus viewing angle. Cons: Size, noise.
Comment heard a few days ago during first Avatar blackout: "Uh, your projecter went off...Whoa!
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2874 Location: Australia
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Crts and Plasma units produce their respective images using completely different technology. I am not sure they should even be compared. You either like what you see on a Plasma, LCD or LED or you like what you see on a CRT.
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HogPilot
Joined: 21 Jan 2010 Posts: 2383
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| km987654 wrote: | | Crts and Plasma units produce their respective images using completely different technology. I am not sure they should even be compared. You either like what you see on a Plasma, LCD or LED or you like what you see on a CRT. |
Aside from the fact that LCD and plasma are both fixed pixel displays whereas CRT is not, I think CRT and plasma are more similar than plasma and LCD since the former set are both phosphor-based displays as far as the kind of picture they generate.
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roland@b4
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 82 Location: Reading UK
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Oh please guys this argument has been had for last ten years. Just watch the picture. If you think yours is better great for you, keep it to your self.
To get it back on topic. I'm trying to work out what relation you would call your wife's, stepmother's, new husband.
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donaldk
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 308
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| macgyver655 wrote: | Here's the problem. When you guys use this comparison claim you are only thinking image quality. When I make comparison comments I use image, build, longevity and repair cost.
And in these comparison scenarios, CRT RULES............................. PERIOD!!!!! |
Sure start shipping them across the pond and an continent, and see what customs/clearing agents haves to say, and how long they hold onto it. So as long a you don't have a dozen sets in storage to swap them out wholesale, and live in a location where you can drop the spend ones at no additional cost...
Current low cost king is the LG HS201, the new Casio 240/245 Hybrid is second in line, tough free CRT FPs are so much fun.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508
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| donaldk wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | Here's the problem. When you guys use this comparison claim you are only thinking image quality. When I make comparison comments I use image, build, longevity and repair cost.
And in these comparison scenarios, CRT RULES............................. PERIOD!!!!! |
Sure start shipping them across the pond and an continent, and see what customs/clearing agents haves to say, and how long they hold onto it. So as long a you don't have a dozen sets in storage to swap them out wholesale, and live in a location where you can drop the spend ones at no additional cost...
Current low cost king is the LG HS201, the new Casio 240/245 Hybrid is second in line, tough free CRT FPs are so much fun. |
I have no idea what you are trying to say here.....
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