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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: Bad Disc Recovery... |
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I have a Drive from my Previous PC build... It crashed and now i cant get a PC to recognize it AT ALL....
Does anyone here have any experience w/ Disc recovery software... I'm thinking of giving it a try.
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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What do you mean by wont recognize it?
If you hook it up as a master or slave, does it show up in the bios?
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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | What do you mean by wont recognize it?
If you hook it up as a master or slave, does it show up in the bios? |
I tried it both ways... As a master it tries to boot the old OS from the drive and crashes. As a slave it just doesnt get recognized in the Bios.
I tried to hook it up thru an External enclosure... NOTHING.....
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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So as a master, the bios recognizes it?
What OS?
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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | So as a master, the bios recognizes it?
What OS? |
I'm currently running Windows 7, previous it was vista. It was a bad vista update that crashed it.
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jkruger
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Have you set the drive jumper to slave and are you using the correct cable/connection?
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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No, I meant what OS is on the drive your having problems with?
XP or Vista? Was the update for XP to Vista or just a Vista update of some sort? I'm looking for specifics on the drive your having problems with.
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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | No, I meant what OS is on the drive your having problems with?
XP or Vista? Was the update for XP to Vista or just a Vista update of some sort? I'm looking for specifics on the drive your having problems with. |
OK. this was my old main drive. It had Vista installed. I installed the test version of a media software on this drive and it asked to restart to update the drivers... i said i'd do it later. Then a vista update loaded, and then i uninstalled the test version of the software... so when i did my next restart... vista crashed and never could restart.
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macgyver655
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Whats odd here is if it is a software problem the drive should still be able to work as a slave unit to get stuff off it. This part has me a little confused.
Now this is what I use to do on many occasions if it was a windows failure but I haven't tried it on Vista because I never came across an instance to try it. Xp I used it hundreds of times.
With the drive hooked up as the primary master, I would boot up the windows install disk until it reached the page where its searching for previous versions on windows. If it didnt find a previous version then chances of getting it to boot to the windows that has all your data wont work that way. If it found a previous version then a repair can be done but its not the recovery one that comes up next. You have to go by that one.
Now if it didnt find a previous version and it would not recognize as a slave then the drive might be electronically damaged. But this would be odd for what you describe as the cause.
At this point I would use a virtual windows to attempt to access the drive info. Of course if the drive itself is non functional then this wont work either and neither will any type of disk recovery software.
At this point if the info on that drive was so important then I would search out a used drive of the exact make and model and swap out the drives board. This would work providing the platters or pickup are not damaged which then would have to be professionally looked at for retrieval.
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WanMan
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This thread is amusing in that I do not see where someone verified that the drive in question is a Parallel ATA (IDE) device, before assuming it was. Serial ATA has no Master/Slave construct so somehow the two of you conveyed that it was PATA without ever mentioning it. Do the two of you live next door to one another? 
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macgyver655
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| WanMan wrote: | | This thread is amusing in that I do not see where someone verified that the drive in question is a Parallel ATA (IDE) device, before assuming it was. Serial ATA has no Master/Slave construct so somehow the two of you conveyed that it was PATA without ever mentioning it. Do the two of you live next door to one another? |
WAKEUP!!!!! Are you sleeping wanman, lol. 
Johns second post in this thread clarified that.
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macgyver655
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Oh, and even if it was an SATA drive, my description of possible repairs are still valid, just leave out the slave comment.
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WanMan
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I didn't know if his efforts to connect it as a Salve device was actually in the BIOS. You can configure a SATA drive to act like an IDE drive and hence assign M/S. Not all BIOS support this, but I have one PC here with a BIOS equipped as such.
Personally, I have not connected a PATA device in M/S in a long, long time. I usually just use Cable Select (CS), and if you have a device setup for that and connect another to the channel as M/S, it typically will not work.
Beyond that, it seems more like the drive itself has lost its brains.
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| WanMan wrote: | I didn't know if his efforts to connect it as a Salve device was actually in the BIOS. You can configure a SATA drive to act like an IDE drive and hence assign M/S. Not all BIOS support this, but I have one PC here with a BIOS equipped as such.
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This is surely true hence why I ask so many questions. However my assumption was based on the fact that it was a correctly installed device when it failed since it had been working.
And I absolutely agree that a lot of assumption is used without 50 question or hands on.
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