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Sony SD-208 R,G,B tube sets

 
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MrCRTing



Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Location: Brighton UK

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Sony SD-208 R,G,B tube sets

Hi

Just a quick note, I have been asked if i would like 10 + sets of Sony SD-208 tubes and projector carcuses with low hours, but before I get them does any one know what projector makes use SD-208 tubes so maybe I can research them out and advertise.

I think they may be rear projection units / tubes if that makes any differnace, i'm not 100% sure myself as I have not yet seen them but have been told they all use SD-208 tubes.

Would there be any interest in these sets or are they bin fodder ?

Don't want to see good stuff go to landfill if they can be used to bring a unit back to life.

Thanks.

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noos@xp37+



Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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Location: Berlin/Munich

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject:

Hello,

I have two Sony RVP 4010 rearprojectors. They use 07msu - thats a nother name for sd-208. They are used in LC setups. I use use HD215 lenses and the stock C-Element for a 3,5 meter wide picture.....

here is a link I found:

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=60316

Peace

Marc
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MrCRTing



Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject:

Hi

Thanks for the reply

They are indeed RVP-4010 unit, 12 complete in fact, have now seen them in the flesh.

One question, apologies for its dumbness, I have a couple of AC projectors (VPH-1271 and VHP-1000) and the lenses come off easy, if these RVP-4010s are liquid coupled LC unit does it mean I can't take the lens off without liquid going every where or is that contained in the C-element block part ? I know the C-Element is concave so the lens rear end must be convex to fit / match right ??? have not taken an LC design apart yet.

And my other question is looking at the other post you linked in are they (SD-208 / 07-MSU) compatable with an SD-187 ? obviously C-element will have to come off and coolant chamber refitted off dead SD-187, I have a VPH-1040 in for repair with really really burnt tubes so much so that the blue is very dim, tried boosting it but no go.

Have not yet opened up one to look, but from the outside they look like they use all the parts from a Sony VPH-1250/1 or VPH-1270/1 projector, PSU looks the same, DC and E boards visible though cover look the same, the alu housing for the RGB amps ect looks the same, all looks like a 12xx has been adapted into a cube with a grill box cover.

Thanks

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noos@xp37+



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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:38 am    Post subject:

Hello,

you can take the lens off, the C-Element is kept in position by an extra mechanism.

No idea if you can swap the tubes. I remember one post here in Germany years ago. He tried to make the tube usable for a 127x and failed. But if you have so many, try if you can try strip down the LC housing in one set. And then also check if the tube pins fit the machine pins(!!!). I am not an expert on electronics, sorry...

How many hours have the RVPs. Are they all 4010 or also 4015? If you have both, please check for differences - i would like to convert my 4010s to 4015s.

These are very good retro machine, and they can be converted to good 12xx front LC machines!

Best regards


marc

....and please let me know with what kind of projector you think they are most related to 1271/70/51/72/52
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Ile



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: Jyväskylä, Finland

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject:

Those lc tubes can be chanced to ac tubes by chancing tubes hardware, it's quite work though. You need to cut hardware from both tubes and glue ac hardware to new tube using rtv motor silicone.

I wouldn't use turps or gasoline to dissolve hardware silicone with Sony made tubes, because these have front glass cemented to tubes bell and I have found out that this seam is very fragile, even glycol dissolve that white cement and makes it soft and can cause tube to implode!

I guess that 07msu is lc version of 07ms tubes. If so, then those work in every projector that use 7"(5,5") Sony 07ms or sd187 tubes after hardware swapped.
Sony 1000/1030/1031, Barco 400/500/600/700/701 and Ehome ECP series for example.
Just compare face plate size to be sure.

8" Sony 07mp or 07msp have also lc versions (barco used 07mpa/mspa names) these can be used in Sony 125*/127* or Barco 800/801/801s after hardware swap.
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noos@xp37+



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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject:

[quote="
I guess that 07msu is lc version of 07ms tubes. If so, then those work in every projector that use 7"(5,5") Sony 07ms or sd187 tubes after hardware swapped.
Sony 1000/1030/1031, Barco 400/500/600/700/701 and Ehome ECP series for example.
Just compare face plate size to be sure.

Hello Ile,

what needs to be compared if I want to find out if a set of 07msu tubes from one of my working RVP fits my Barco 701. The 701 would be a nice progressive DVD LC machine.....but in the moment the 701 has mint tubes but with no air bubble. So work is needed in any way.

Thanks


marc
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noos@xp37+



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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:29 pm    Post subject:

...but i forgot to mention:

The RVP if chnged to fronprojection are very nice too. They even scan to ugly looking 128khz!!!! 1080p120....but it looks like it sounds. But far better than any 701, which should be one of the best 07ms tube using CRTs.
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Ile



Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject:

noos@xp37+ wrote:
Hello Ile,

what needs to be compared if I want to find out if a set of 07msu tubes from one of my working RVP fits my Barco 701. The 701 would be a nice progressive DVD LC machine.....but in the moment the 701 has mint tubes but with no air bubble. So work is needed in any way.

Thanks


marc
I'm pretty sure that RVP tubes lc-hardware size and mounting holes is different than in 701 tubes. Probably you just need to build or modify bottom/top tube mounting plates for RVP tubes to get those installed to 701 frame. That should be only difference.

Go for RVP frame if that have shape that can be used in front projection and frame have room to build adjustment for R/B tubes projection angles (toe in) if there isn't that already.
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noos@xp37+



Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject:

Ile wrote:

marc
I'm pretty sure that RVP tubes lc-hardware size and mounting holes is different than in 701 tubes. Probably you just need to build or modify bottom/top tube mounting plates for RVP tubes to get those installed to 701 frame. That should be only difference.

Go for RVP frame if that have shape that can be used in front projection and frame have room to build adjustment for R/B tubes projection angles (toe in) if there isn't that already.[/quote]



Thanks Ile!

This will probably save some rainy Sundays in the future...




To MrCRTing:
I hope this post generated the data you wanted - let us know if you go for the RVPs or the tubes and what you will do with them.





Best regards from Munich


Marc
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noos@xp37+



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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject:

Ile wrote:

marc
I'm pretty sure that RVP tubes lc-hardware size and mounting holes is different than in 701 tubes. Probably you just need to build or modify bottom/top tube mounting plates for RVP tubes to get those installed to 701 frame. That should be only difference.

Go for RVP frame if that have shape that can be used in front projection and frame have room to build adjustment for R/B tubes projection angles (toe in) if there isn't that already.[/quote]



Thanks Ile!

This will probably save some rainy Sundays in the future...




To MrCRTing:
I hope this post generated the data you wanted - let us know if you go for the RVPs or the tubes and what you will do with them.





Best regards from Munich


Marc
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