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perisoft · Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 2920 Location: Ithaca, NY

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Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Well, I think everyone knows how I feel about 3D. That being said it is here and it isn't going anywhere. It will continue to be pushed and I think the demand will be enough to justify the cost. Cedia last year was filled with 3D and their were long lines to check out the demos. Panny's demo always had a line. Darinp who is pretty tough on video quality said the Panny demo was really good in his opinion. I could see what he was talking about and didn't disagree even though I still think it has a ways to go. FYI, the Panny demo was a 100" plasma with active glasses.

Oh, I forgot to mention that the Masters will be in 3D this year. I am not sure how they are doing it, but with the networks trying it this might sway current and future buyers to spend the extra money on 3D capable sets.

yonexsp · Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 311

sergio leone jr · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Finland

My problem is that theres no classic's on blu-ray. You can have all the crap made after 2000, but where are the real classic's, the films made before let's say 1970. Where are the best films of Hawks, Kurosawa, Renoir, Ford, Hitchcock, Bunuel etc. No bluray and no 3D, ever. So what you can watch on 3D if you are over nine? How many times you can watch Avatar? Is it more easy to go once a year in Disneyland?

So i prefer filmlike picture and my G90 on flat screen and DVD or blu-ray, when it's possible.

Sony G90, JVC HD100, VP-50pro, Oppo BDP-83.

stefuel · Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:27 am Post subject:

Whenever I think G-90, the image of a round black bomb with a sizzling fuse attached comes to mind Laughing

mp20748 · Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:36 am Post subject:

WanMan · Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 10270

jask · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 10187 Location: kamloops BC

well I would have to say you should pick up Nemo at least.. it is a "cartoon" movie and is very watchable.

As far as 3D I don't consider myself a technophobe and I do not have any reason to dislike 3D other that the fact that it is a gimmick. It is a psychovisual novelty and having to wear a set of glasses to view an image is going to get old before it begins- especially for people that already wear glasses for vision correction.
I did see the movie in the theater and like a lot of people I noticed the lack of saturation, the loss of gamut and contrast.. the blacks were not and neither were the whites.
Was it fun? sure!! but I am going to guess that gamers will be the biggest winners and the technology will fizzle.
Given the choice, if I was looking for a more immersive experience I would rather see a movie on IMAX. 3D might be able to improve on a lot of its current weaknesses, and when that happens I look forward to being more impressed, but it is still more hype than substance so far.

sergio leone jr · Joined: 14 Aug 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Finland

WanMan · Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 10270

I wonder how long it took 'all the rest', as you mention, to come out on DVD. But, I think you may find yourself more the exception than the common rule. Now, back to the thread topic. Smile

Where can I get a good condition G980 for $1K?

ecrabb · Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject:

mp20748 · Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject:

jask · Joined: 17 Mar 2006 Posts: 10187 Location: kamloops BC

mp20748 · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:07 am Post subject:

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:32 am Post subject:

I know what you're saying, Mike. I'm generally the same way. So, I'll take a Casino Royale over a The Incredibles, or a Moon over a Wall-E any day, but then I truly love and enjoy both. I appreciate the storytelling, the artisanship, and the massive effort and attention that goes into crafting a movie like Ratatouille.

What's funny though is that Ratatouille gets a 96% on Rotten Tomatoes (this is up with Casablanca), while my second-favorite Pixar movie Cars is only 75%. My favorite Pixar film is The Incredibles, and it gets a whopping 97%. I'd tell you to watch The Incredibles for your first sit-down-and-watch Pixar film, but it's not out on Blu-ray, yet. It will be beautiful when it does come out. Lots of deep blacks and intense blues and reds.

The penguin movie... I assume you mean Happy Feet... It was cute, but I wasn't a big fan. Not a "re-watcher" for me. Most of the Pixar films are typically a pretty big cut above the Dreamworks films.

I'm with you on Jask's suggestion of Japanese movies... I've tried watching some anime, and I just can't get into it.

SC

dturco · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:51 am Post subject:

Heavy Metal.

Is my animation of choice. It's terriblly done, grainy as hell,and poorly illustrated, but the stories have that draw you in feeling. I credit it to skill of the artists, a thing that only hand drawing can do. And of course the writers deserve credit too.

VideoGrabber · Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 933 Location: Michigan

ecrabb wrote:
> Finding Nemo, for example is a must-see for all ages. On Blu-ray, it's also truly beautiful looking and sounding. <

Where did you get Nemo on Blu-ray? The last I heard it had been postponed, and Amazon doesn't even have a release date for it. None of the review sites have seen it. Yet you're relating how great it looks on Blu. ??? Did you just return from a FlashForward? Wink

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject:

Yes, I'm from the future. OK, I'm lying - I'm not from the future... Actually, I know somebody at Pixar and I have a pre-release version of the Nemo BD.

Alright, alright, it's neither of those. Jask threw me off with the "you should pick up Nemo" recommendation... Nobody who's on the fence about watching animated films should be watching the SD DVD, so I wouldn't even recommend a movie anymore for somebody like Mike, unless it was on BD. I have seen Nemo in HD, but was on the Disney Channel. But, I didn't even bother recording it because it had the giant gray and white Disney XD bug in the corner. It looked really nice, though... for DirecTV... But, that's what I was thinking of. The BD should definitely look excellent.

Aright... So, go watch Cars. Cars is awesome. Definitely my favorite after The Incredibles. Can't wait until The Incredibles is on BD.

SC

ribaud · Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 11

I'd like to make a few comments here. I've seen Avatar nine (!!) times. Do I love the movie? No; like, maybe. It certainly has problems. And what mattered to me was the way I saw it: seven of the times were on an IMAX screen. For this movie, that really mattered -- digital just does not do the images justice. The digital 3D runs I saw were...OK...but nothing to write home about; I think the movie strengths are mainly its image -- the story is a bit (or maybe more) rocky. BTW, in two of the IMAX runs, the left chain was out of focus. The 3D worked even so, so that may address the question about requisite eyesight.
Is 3D here to stay? Probably, and probably not as a technology everyone will embrace. It is too expensive and yields too little benefit for the money for most people save die-hards. Umm...like at least a few of us. That's not an easy thing for me to say: My daily-use pj is a Videobeam 1000A and even my good one is 'only' a G70 fed via a VP50pro from a BDP-83. Definitely not 3D capable, any of it.
I also want to comment on 'real 3D' and I don't mean the technology known as Real3D, I mean images of real things in 3D. My father has a Stereo Realist 3D camera, and I've used it quite a bit. One very telling image was one my father had taken of some guests in his living room. The image looked -- and looks -- to me like several cardboard cut-outs placed in the room. Photographic 3D is weak beyond a short distance (the parallax required just wouldn't be there) and at shorter distances, mental cues fill in much of what we think of as depth. So it comes down to the usual story problem -- suspension of disbelief. Ya pays yer money...