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tse · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 1014 Location: Sweatbucket, Fl.

Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6635

Lucky you didn't drop the tube and turn it into a pain in the a$$ too ! Wink

CIR Engineering · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject:

ecrabb · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject:

I didn't know that, either... I always assumed once it was discharged, it was discharged. Crazy... Ya learn something new every day!

SC

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject:

I think we should call that the "High voltage turtle" for obvious reasons Laughing

Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6635

Don't try this at home either......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU1UKn7iXv8

Wink

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

This guy got the ultimate zap.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9E62II80&show_article=1

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

dturco · Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject:

They did.

The resultant stream of liquid from the body could not let the electricity flow back through the urine. However the puddle left by the liquid is another story. If you were standing in a puddle with flip flops or sandals or no shoes, then it's remotely possible. I'm willing to bet there was more liquid then just urine where this occurred.

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO

The article says "burn marks indicated the way the electricity traveled through Messenger's body." I'll let you use your imagination but I'd guess they're pretty sure the electricity traveled through the urine stream.

Mythbusters is fun to watch but they're sh*tty scientists. They try one or two things and decide that proves all cases. Just because they couldn't reproduce it doesn't mean it's impossible.

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

Gary, it's an entertainment show. It's not meant to be Definitive.

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO

I know that. But your & Dave's posts sounded like you were pointing to them as authorities. If your post was tongue-in-cheek, I retract.

dturco · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:45 am Post subject:

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO

OK, fine, then I will offer my personal first-hand experience. On the farm when I was a kid. There was an electric fence. I ***ASSURE*** you it is possible for electricity to travel through a stream of urine JUST FINE, thank you!!!!! Shocked

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:37 am Post subject:

I love this forum... Very Happy

Gary, was the... ahem... package just mere inches from the fence, and maybe have damp shoes or something?

I won't get into how I know this, but if you've ever seen flash photography of somebody taking a piss, the stream turns into a series of blobs of piss not long after it leaves the, um, orifice... It's not technically a "stream" at all for very long. Think about it... If it were an actual stream, A) it wouldn't splash when you pissed in the toilet, and B) it would be practically silent. The only reason it appears to be a true stream is because our vision blurs it. So, I don't give a sh*t how good of a conductor urine is, it isn't going to conduct electricity if it isn't continuous. It also isn't going to conduct electricity if it doesn't complete a circuit to ground.

Now, if you were in bare feet and/or if your shoes were damp, AND you were standing RIGHT at the fence, I could see how you could electrify your boys.

As for the dude that pissed on the downed power line, I'd say in that case, all bets are off. That's easily believable. What's a typical neighborhood transmission line, 2400v? That is easily way over the threshold of rubber-soled shoes protecting you... At that voltage, humidity in the air, sweaty feet or skin, etc. all become modest conductors. Even if it's high resistance, a few hundred volts might be enough - never mind 1000 - to stop the ticker or burn your whacker. That hurts just thinking about it. Knowing what a spark plug or even just household 110 feels like into a finger/arm, I can't imagine... Never mind.

Gee... Smashes into a utility pole, then pisses on the downed power line and dies... I wonder if he was drunk?

SC

dturco · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject:

Gary, first appendage experience is, well priceless. Myth Confirmed Shocked

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO

Yup, that would be me...

SC, I was probably 8 at the time. I don't remember details of how close or what shoes. I just remember I learned a lesson. Mr. Green

I doubt I was "mere inches" away. Even at 8 I wasn't THAT stupid. Very Happy

More likely 2' or so. Don't remember the footwear but given it was on the farm I was probably wearing shoes.

Of course, if I remember right that electric fence would throw a spark 1/4" or more. Would that be enough to arc between droplets? Seems unlikely, but... I definitely wouldn't try it with a downed power line!!

jkruger · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 2435 Location: Carlsbad, CA

The ground is almost always wet in Western Washington. It rains for four months nonstop in the spring.
http://www.vosizneias.com/50465/2010/03/02/montesano-wa-man-electrocuted-by-urinating-on-downed-power-line/

David_Web · Joined: 02 May 2007 Posts: 418 Location: Sweden

I think something like this would be noticed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EochMYzYz20&feature=related

Granted the ground is wet but still...