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Das444 · Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 145

Hi all,
I'm starting to get the upgrade bug. I have been running a Sony 1252 for 5 Years now. I have over 6400 hrs on it the piture still looks awesome for what it is. I'm thinking Sony D50; Will I see a big difference in Picture quality? I would like a G70 or G90 but that’s out of my price range. Sony 1292 would also be nice but I just don’t see them come up that often. I would like to stay in the Sony family do to all the input cards I have. But I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks Dan

ecrabb · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:32 pm Post subject:

Hi, Dan -

A D50 will be a nice, yet modest upgrade over your 1252. It's a newer chassis - the same vintage as the G70 and G90. It's got continuous Scheimpflug (lens flapping), a geometry and convergence system just like the G70 (more control than the 1252), and it's smaller and quieter than the 1252.

If you found a low-hour D50, it should be noticeably sharper than your current machine. I don't know if I could characterize it as "big difference in picture quality", though. It's still an electrostatic-focus, air-coupled 7" machine. I'd reserve that "big difference" description for an 8" machine.

The price on these machines has dropped precipitously in the last few years. It's entirely possible you could sell your old machine for $100 and find even a G70 or XG for well under a grand. What's your budget? What part of the country do you live in?

SC

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: getting the bug to up grade!

ecrabb · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject:

AR,

There's no way a 1252 had a better pic than a D50, unless something was wrong with the D50 and the 1252 had much newer tubes than 14,000 hour examples. How was the 1252 pic better, or more to the point, what was wrong with the D50 pic?

But, I agree that he should shoot for a more significant upgrade - preferably to an 8" EM/LC set.

SC

zGman · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 599

D50 will not be much of an upgrade, if any & new tubes are impossible to find.

Get a BG808S or M8500 and you will have a much better picture.

ecrabb · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject:

Yeah, but don't get an 8500 unless it's color-filtered. You're used to color-corrected red and green with the 1252 - you'd miss the nice reds and greens if you didn't have it.

SC

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject:

Das444 · Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 145

Thanks

What about NEC-XG, the case sure looks nice . I see Curt has one with 42 hrs on it . But it's about 2X my budget, then add shipping and a new Moome HD card and it turns into a pipe dream!

ecrabb · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject:

greg_mitch · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 5320

I thought the consensus was the 1252/1272 was better than the D50...it seemed like the D50 was a dud. Never seen one but my 1252 looked pretty good (albeit a little soft) at 1080i.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject:

No question that off the shelf, Sony did wonders with the D50 tubes. They are razor sharp, but then tend to fall off pretty quickly after about 3000 hours from what I've seen. I've got a couple of minty D50s that I'm selling for cheap, but they're not selling. Had a scam bidder on eBay last week as well. Sad

At 6500 hours, the D50 would look worse than the 1252 if set up identically IMHO. D50s have no place in a conference room!

Try and snag an EM focusing set. they blow away the ES focusing sets.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject:

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject:

Das444 · Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 145

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

How about a Marquee( color filtered HD 144's), I can drive it to you and help with the set up Wink

Athanasios

bbfarmht · Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject:

Das444 · Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 145

Hi
Well I pulled the trigger on a NEC XG 135. The seller has no remote and says it turns on and lights up but thats all he can tell me. I will know more in a few days when it gets here. Will this be a step up from the 1252?
Dan

Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Yes and is it LC or AC? If you haven't seen the condition of the tubes then I hope you get lucky. I bought an XG once and received the pj with about 2 rated tubes.

Mark_A_W · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:00 am Post subject:

Even with 2/10 tubes it's a huge step up from a 1252..

But yes, LC is better.

CIR Engineering · Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject:

I was going to say, on a low budget, look at NEC's. The G70 or 8500 would be nice, but also cost more. It's not like A D50 is a bad projector, it's just that there are much better projectors to choose from and they are all getting cheaper and cheaper.

I calibrated a D50 about nine months ago for the first time in a few years. It had 4500 hours on the tubes and chassis, but it threw a nice enough image at 1080i. The guy got it free and he was tickled with the image quality.

craigr