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greg_mitch
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| MikeEby wrote: | | VideoGrabber wrote: | Re: "I could care less about bitstreaming", MikeEby commented:
> My feeling too...Hell I'm still using analog audio. <
It might be worthwhile pointing out here that the analog output you speak of is still full multi-channel, with the high-bitrate HD audio. So you can still get the uncompressed quality audio, over 5.1 or 7.1 channels, if you go analog-out from the PC to analog-in on your receiver.
It's not necessary (or even possible) to keep the audio in digital form, all the way out to the speaker cones. Bitstreaming is just one means to an end. |
Absolutely Tim! I’m in no rush to replace my Atlantic Technology Pre/Pro…I figure if it was ever good enough for Art S. it can stay in my modest theater for a few years longer.
I hate the way digital pro/processor are always hunting around for the right mode, analog NEVER does that.
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OMG!! That is my main complaint about switching cards and in the process switching to HDMI through receiver.
When I turn the TV off the computer makes a beep like I just disconnected a USB flash drive...then when I turn tv back on...it seems like 15 seconds before it loads back up like it has to find the driver, etc. just like a flash drive. Also when I switch between standard def TV it is some sort of TV Logic mode and when I change to HDTV it will pause...loud click...play surround sound AT LIKE TWICE THE VOLUME. So frustrating.
My other main complaint about these ATI cards, at least mine, is that when you use the HDMI output it is limiting me to standard HDTV resolutions (1080i, 720p, 1080p, etc.) at 60 Hz. My TV is 1366x768! It forces me to back to the basic category and 1366x768 is only available at 30i and my TV sees this as 1080i...F'd up I know. That is why I said this thing isn't plug and play.
I switch back to the VGA connection and it immediately lets me put 1366x768 at 60Hz to the TV.
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benareeno
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sounds like you need powerstrip!
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MikeEby
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IMO it should have been called "Plug and Pray"....Not "Plug and Play".
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Spanky Ham
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I can't remember where I read it, but either the new Nvidia 220 or 240 handles the audio LPCM or it might be that the current cards have the ability and there was a driver update.
One good thing about Nvidia is they have hardware accel for Flash. It will be available eventually for the rest of the cards, but Nvidia has it now.
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AnalogRocks
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | I can't remember where I read it, but either the new Nvidia 220 or 240 handles the audio LPCM or it might be that the current cards have the ability and there was a driver update.
One good thing about Nvidia is they have hardware accel for Flash. It will be available eventually for the rest of the cards, but Nvidia has it now. |
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Accelerated YouTube videos?
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greg_mitch
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | I can't remember where I read it, but either the new Nvidia 220 or 240 handles the audio LPCM or it might be that the current cards have the ability and there was a driver update.
One good thing about Nvidia is they have hardware accel for Flash. It will be available eventually for the rest of the cards, but Nvidia has it now. |
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Accelerated YouTube videos? |
You might be surprised but the HD youtube videos will choke a LOT of computers up.
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AnalogRocks
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| greg_mitch wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | I can't remember where I read it, but either the new Nvidia 220 or 240 handles the audio LPCM or it might be that the current cards have the ability and there was a driver update.
One good thing about Nvidia is they have hardware accel for Flash. It will be available eventually for the rest of the cards, but Nvidia has it now. |
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You might be surprised but the HD youtube videos will choke a LOT of computers up. |
Really? I've played them on a P3 600 Laptop with Win98 ok. Hmmmm
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Spanky Ham
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Umm, ok. I would have a hard time believing you were doing full screen HD flash videos with that hardware. Anandtech did an article about a month ago on the subject. Flash is the single biggest choker of PC performance for me. It is probably the largest reason I really care to upgrade my desktop. I was going to buy an Athlon II X3 with a 220 video card over at Frys, but I will probably be heading back to SoFl next week. Of course, that will have me wanting to upgrade my three month old laptop.
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Spanky Ham
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I read this over at Toms:
| Quote: | While I saw some interesting gear and software there, I didn’t come across all that much for tech enthusiasts. Cyberlink’s Tom Vaughn showed off a still-in-development version of PowerDVD, which supports stereoscopic 3D Blu-ray playback on both polarized displays and shutter glasses. Intriguingly, the new version makes use of Microsoft’s DirectCompute API instead of proprietary interfaces from Nvidia or ATI, and hence can even make use of the video engine in Intel’s latest integrated graphics built into the Clarkdale and Arrandale CPUs. Vaughn was able to show that two simultaneous Blu-ray streams ran on Clarkdale while consuming 5-8% of the processor's resources.
He cautioned that this really works well only on the GPU built into the new 32nm line; it won’t work on Intel’s GMA 4500 and earlier graphics parts. |
I know most don't use PowerDVD, but if you want 3d this is another alternative.
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greg_mitch
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | greg_mitch wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | I can't remember where I read it, but either the new Nvidia 220 or 240 handles the audio LPCM or it might be that the current cards have the ability and there was a driver update.
One good thing about Nvidia is they have hardware accel for Flash. It will be available eventually for the rest of the cards, but Nvidia has it now. |
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You might be surprised but the HD youtube videos will choke a LOT of computers up. |
Really? I've played them on a P3 600 Laptop with Win98 ok. Hmmmm |
I am going to have to call BS on this one. Prove it.
Post a youtube video of you watching hd youtube videos on that beast with cpuz window open and a task manager so I can see the processor load! 
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MikeEby
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Really? I've played them on a P3 600 Laptop with Win98 ok. Hmmmm |
At what..3 FPS?
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greg_mitch
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | greg_mitch wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | I can't remember where I read it, but either the new Nvidia 220 or 240 handles the audio LPCM or it might be that the current cards have the ability and there was a driver update.
One good thing about Nvidia is they have hardware accel for Flash. It will be available eventually for the rest of the cards, but Nvidia has it now. |
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You might be surprised but the HD youtube videos will choke a LOT of computers up. |
Really? I've played them on a P3 600 Laptop with Win98 ok. Hmmmm |
Here are the HD flash windows requirements:
| Quote: | VIDEO PLAYBACK SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS FOR WINDOWS
240p (YouTube)
Intel Pentium III 450MHz or faster processor
1GB of RAM
480p (NTSC/DVD) — 24 fps
Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent 2.33GHz or faster processor
1GB of RAM and 128MB of VRAM
720p (HD) — 24/30 fps
Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent 3GHz or faster processor
1GB of RAM and 256MB of VRAM
1080p (HD) — 24 fps
Intel Core Duo or equivalent 1.8GHz or faster processor
2GB of RAM and 256MB of VRAM |
http://www.adobe.com/products/mediaplayer/viewers/systemreqs.html
You must have been watching 240p!!
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AnalogRocks
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Could have been. I wonder if I can make it run on my 486 50?
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