CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject:

Funny, there's a couple of threads on avs about the same decision.

What I don't get is why you people INSIST on tweaking. While not state of the art, I have an unmodded 9500LC with a bit of green wear, which has been hanging for 3+ years. Never broken, I tweak every 2 months or so, but only for 10 minutes tops. Last time I did a full setup was when I attempted a stack.

If you peoples are tweaking weekly/daily, then either you've got a bad setup, something is wrong, or you're too anal. Smile

CRTs are simply supposed to work, Period. Now, if you have a pre 1992 projector say like a Barco 800, and every 6 months something is failing, then I can see that, the set is 17 years old, but an EM focusing set post 1995 should be pretty reliable and not need to be tweaked every 10 seconds.

At this point, CRTs, even 9" sets, sold as is with no warranty are almost worthless. It's almost better to run it into the ground than trying to recoup money out of the set.

Just my off the cuff $.02.

CRT_Ben · Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1684 Location: Northern Virginia

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Dave I agree some of the money spent at first before you even set it up should have gone somewhere else in your set up. Like a professional install and calibration from the get go. I spent 800 bucks on a 479 marquee to have it calibrated and set up from scratch for three input. And that is what really got me excited. before that it was just ok to me, nothing special since I was a newbe and did not know enough on a proper calibration. but after Craig Rounds came and did my M8000 i was floored. And THAT is what got me into the stages your at now tweaking here and there. But i had a full year and a half of watching movies before i started the other stuff, and I bought a second PJ to mess with that was less than the calibration cost.

So i would say have a pro claluibrator who knows Marquee's like Craig or Ken and have them do it right and they most likely will be able to find out what the problem is too while at it.

Out of every mod and tweak I ever did before i learned how to calibrate and properly set up a Marquee, the Money spent on a pro calibration was the best and smartest dollars i ever spent on this Hobby. And I think I may do it again for the blend, cause right now it looks awesome but i know i can get it to 98% with a pro setting it all up.

Athanasios

dturco · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject:

Damn all of you with your logic. I am still in the game. MP is sending me a yoke to further testing of the noise issue.

Damn, Damn, Damn, Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. Twisted Evil

akajester · Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 934 Location: Wisconsin

I guess I'm glad I've never seen a really good setup. I paid $300 for my bg808s. The rest is just time investment to get it looking right. Not perfect, but good enough that I can stop messing with it. I don't plan on upgrading anything, it's just not worth it and I'm too cheap to go hdmi or anything. I can understand how the decision would be different for you, you have a lot more invested in it.

Some day I'd love to get a cheap digital that equals or bests my crt, have it setup with a few presses of buttons and run silently. That could be 10-15 years into the future. I hope my Barco (with 3,000 hours) holds out until then! Smile

In working condition I'd bet that quee 9500 must look awesome. I hope I never get a look at it in action, haha.

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

seems like you are too swayed by the opinions of others....some people love to tweak and repair and upgrade. Obviously most of the guys left on this forum like to do that...you don't and you should get out...instead of following the passions of others (tweaking), follow your own (watching movies).

dturco · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

I guess I am leaving the impression that GOZER isn't working. It works but has an annoying wavy line problem that only shows up in the picture every so often, but on the tube face always. And has RF noise that cuts off my cell phone.

http://curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6350

Well I'm not done yet anyway. Shocked

dturco · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject:

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Dave do the lines look like this ecry so often, its a wav file might play but it might down load

www.tolna.net/~teox/9500LC_focus.wmv

Athanasios

Clarence · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: When do you call it Quits

dturco · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject:

dturco · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject:

Clarence, I think Dragan's comment is about.... Me... not the Projector.

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

Dude...part it out and move on...it's the right thing to do!

HaydnG90 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1356

Have to agree with Nashou. Best money I spent on the G90 was getting a professional to set it up and calibrate it. That was 2 and a half years ago and I've not had to touch it once since then.....well, except kick it when the YA board went ape. Very Happy

If I'm being really critical I have a slight red misconvergence on the right side of the image and I'll probably get another calibration once the MP mods are installed just to get the gamma and colorimetry perfect. I'll sit down with the manuals over the Holidays and tweak the pic which will do me fine until then.

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

mp20748 · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject:

This is one of the reasons that I don't like selling projectors...

This projector was offered at a low price from the original owner, and was purchased at an even lower price. The main reason why it was sold was because of a few problems it was having. And those problems were directly related to ongoing brown outs (power failures). It was one of two projectors that was already replaced by the original owners insurance company.

I did the service evaluation for the customer and had recommend that it be replaced due to a massive power failure, that required a transformer replacement somewhere on the same street where the original owner lived. That was the last major power failure, with there being many more due to the age of the wiring and transformers in the community.

So considering the price asked and what was paid for it, it could have been a good deal.

The only mods done to this projector that I know of was done to the VIM and neck boards. None of them is the real problem. Not sure what else was done to it mod wise, but nothing else was done by me.

I thought it would be best at this point to post a bit of history on this projector.

I've offered to help out with his problems and has loaned boards and tested boards at no charge. And has also offered if he removed it and bought it to me, I would check it out while he waits and get to the bottom of the problem. And would do that at no charge.

But at this point, I think it may be best to move on from this projector, because being an owner of this projector would only make sense if the owner was prepared to work with whatever problem it might present. And it don't seem like that's going to be the case with this present owner.

mp20748 · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject:

And to add...

The Marquee has been around since 1992, which is more than twice as long as many of the other higher end CRT projectors.

So you could find some really aged parts or boards being used in some of them, and that would explain why some require maybe more parts than some of the other model CRT projectors, which really have not been around more than ten years. And even with that short life span, there's really very few to no parts available for them, when, if they fail.

So on any giving day, I'll take a Marquee over anything else out there, mainly because I can count on being able to keep it going. And parts is not an issue at all.. Very Happy

dturco · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:01 am Post subject:

When exactlay did you tell me that? If you Knew the history then why didn't you say so back here.

http://curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=187002#187002

And why did you agree to mod it?

100% remember. Now your saying move on. Thanks a lot.

I sure didn't know about it being shorted-out when I bought it.

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

Again...move on...it's the right thing to do!