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karmat63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: Is it a VDC/Marquee 8500 Longbow? |
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I was offered this brand knew VDC. Could it be a Longbow? And which would be it's value?
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Sparky015
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Karma, yes, that is a Longbow (the LB in the part number stands for LongBow. Looks like you found one of the ones that went up for sale last year. I'll let others comment on it's worth, I'm not sure what people paid for the others. It's basically a brand new 8500 with factory HD-145 lenses, so it's definitely a factory pimped 8-incher!
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yepp its a longbow just like my twins!! 
I paid 990 and 1110 for mine, and none in that auction went for more than 1300 for your information, now add shipping cost to it unless they picked it up, then you'll have a ball park number of it was in total cost to the seller.
Let me know how much they want, just curious and what's your location i want to see if its one of the 7 that an e-bay seller bought.
Athanasios
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karmat63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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I found this auction on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150387003177#ht_2158wt_1163
that was completely wrong, describing a brand new 8500 ULTRA build in 1995 (??), but it clearly looked a much more recent and better VDC 8500 Longbow. I offered 2k USD, but the man refused...
A question for Nashou: I have an almost stock 1997 Marquee 8500 (with color corrected HD 145 lenses) that I bought from Dragamn abot 2 years ago (Bests from Italy, Dragan  ). It is a low hours unit (less then 3000 hours on chassis and tubes) and performs very well, at 800p@48 but even at 1080p/50 (I live in PAL land) is very nice and enjoiable. Do you thing the longbow would be a real step ahead ?
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| karmat63 wrote: | I found this auction on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150387003177#ht_2158wt_1163
that was completely wrong, describing a brand new 8500 ULTRA build in 1995, but it clearly looked a much more recent and better VDC 8500 Longbow. I offered 2k USD, but the man refused...
A question for Nashou: I have an almost stock 1997 Marquee 8500 (with color corrected HD 145 lenses) that I bought from Dragamn abot 2 years ago (Bests from Italy, Dragan ). It is a low hours unit (less then 3000 hours on chassis and tubes) and performs very well, at 800p@48 but even at 1080p/50 (I live in PAL land) is very nice and enjoiable. Do you thing the longbow would be a real step ahead ?
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The longbows are ultras which have more adjustments for geometry. IF your not going to do a side by side stack or using a curved screen than id keep the PJ you have now and maybe use the 2k for Frankenyokes and maybe a set of 9 inch tubes and lens's and convert it to a 9500LC. If you could get it for less than id get it, maybe 1500. but he wont sell it at that price he's asking. I saw it too when it was set at 5500.
But the Longbow is a step up from your machine but not worth the price he wants , plus shipping to Italy.
keep what you have and see if you can find 9 inch tubes instead. Once i get these Thomas tubes swapped into a set of LC housings and test them thoroughly We can work out a deal with me modding a set of VNB's to work with the tubes and
all mounted in housings and new bellows plus lens for what you offered him 
Athanasios
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karmat63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Once i get these Thomas tubes swapped into a set of LC housings and test them thoroughly We can work out a deal with me modding a set of VNB's to work with the tubes and
all mounted in housings and new bellows plus lens for what you offered him
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That's would be very nice... Keep me informed...
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draganm
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| karmat63 wrote: | A question for Nashou: I have an almost stock 1997 Marquee 8500 (with color corrected HD 145 lenses) that I bought from Dragamn abot 2 years ago (Bests from Italy, Dragan ). It is a low hours unit (less then 3000 hours on chassis and tubes) and performs very well, at 800p@48 but even at 1080p/50 (I live in PAL land) is very nice and enjoiable. Do you thing the longbow would be a real step ahead ?
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Hi, glad to hear your 8500 is still delivering the goods, that's what Marquee's are known for.
For about what it costs to just ship a Longbow to Italy you could completely upgrade and re-build the electronics in your 8500 for a nice performance increase. Like Nash said, the LB is great for extreme geometry and it's a very nice machine but it's still an air-coupled 8500.
Also, if your not running HDMI direct with Moome card that's a nice upgrade too.
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karmat63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| draganm wrote: |
Hi, glad to hear your 8500 is still delivering the goods, that's what Marquee's are known for.
For about what it costs to just ship a Longbow to Italy I could completely upgrade and re-build the electronics in your 8500. Like Nash said, the LB is great for extreme geometry and it's a very nice machine but it's still an air-coupled 8500.
Also, if your not running HDMI direct with Moome card that's a nice upgrade too. |
Hi Dragan, yes, I read about your nice work on rebuilding Marquee electronics... and I'm thinking to send my electronics to you for upgrading, even if, for the while, the unit runs rock solid with no drifting
If I can deal with Nash to change my 8" with 9" plus housing etc, that will be the exact timing...
I run HDMI through Lumagen HDP to Moome HDMI card... with a perfect gamma and grayscale tracking, checked with iOne, HCFR and the help of Kal's tutorial..
(PS: I bought from you on Videogon, with the nickname of "flex63blu, and I have a very nice memory of you...)
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draganm
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| karmat63 wrote: | | Hi Dragan, yes, I read about your nice work on rebuilding Marquee electronics... and I'm thinking to send my electronics to you for upgrading, even if, for the while, the unit runs rock solid with no drifting |
keep in mind it's more than just conv., every single person so far has reported a nice improvement to picture quality.
| karmat63 wrote: | I run HDMI through Lumagen HDP to Moome HDMI card... with a perfect gamma and grayscale tracking, checked with iOne, HCFR and the help of Kal's tutorial..
(PS: I bought from you on Videogon, with the nickname of "flex63blu, and I have a very nice memory of you...) |
thanks, that's very kind of you. I also BTW still have an 8500 on my ceiling. I have no plans to replace it.
ciao
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| draganm wrote: | | karmat63 wrote: | A question for Nashou: I have an almost stock 1997 Marquee 8500 (with color corrected HD 145 lenses) that I bought from Dragamn abot 2 years ago (Bests from Italy, Dragan ). It is a low hours unit (less then 3000 hours on chassis and tubes) and performs very well, at 800p@48 but even at 1080p/50 (I live in PAL land) is very nice and enjoiable. Do you thing the longbow would be a real step ahead ?
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Hi, glad to hear your 8500 is still delivering the goods, that's what Marquee's are known for.
For about what it costs to just ship a Longbow to Italy I could completely upgrade and re-build the electronics in your 8500. Like Nash said, the LB is great for extreme geometry and it's a very nice machine but it's still an air-coupled 8500.
Also, if your not running HDMI direct with Moome card that's a nice upgrade too. |
Why wouldn't this have been done before you sold it?
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | karmat63 wrote: | A question for Nashou: I have an almost stock 1997 Marquee 8500 (with color corrected HD 145 lenses) that I bought from Dragamn abot 2 years ago (Bests from Italy, Dragan ). It is a low hours unit (less then 3000 hours on chassis and tubes) and performs very well, at 800p@48 but even at 1080p/50 (I live in PAL land) is very nice and enjoiable. Do you thing the longbow would be a real step ahead ?
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Hi, glad to hear your 8500 is still delivering the goods, that's what Marquee's are known for.
For about what it costs to just ship a Longbow to Italy I could completely upgrade and re-build the electronics in your 8500. Like Nash said, the LB is great for extreme geometry and it's a very nice machine but it's still an air-coupled 8500.
Also, if your not running HDMI direct with Moome card that's a nice upgrade too. |
Why wouldn't this have been done before you sold it? |
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draganm
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Very funny Mcgyver but no,i've never hosed anyone especially my customers
| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Why wouldn't this have been done before you sold it? |
because the machine was sold almost 2 years before the HD mod's were developed 
the mods have actually replaced my PJ work.
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macgyver655
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| draganm wrote: | Very funny Mcgyver but no,i've never hosed anyone especially my customers
| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Why wouldn't this have been done before you sold it? |
because the machine was sold almost 2 years before the HD mod's were developed
the mods have actually replaced my PJ work. |
No, thats not what I meant by that Drag..... I meant I was trying to put out the fire that Spank was attempting to fuel.... 
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draganm
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | No, thats not what I meant by that Drag..... I meant I was trying to put out the fire that Spank was attempting to fuel.... |
That would make you the only fireman in a forum full of Pyro's 
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Nashou66
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