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picree
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: VDC no longer rebuilding tubes. |
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I may be the last to know but this is the reply I got from VDC just today  :
| Quote: | Hi Curt,
Thank you for your inquiry. We have new tubes available and the price is $595.00 each plus $100.00 core charge each. We can ship as soon as payment is received. We no longer rebuild tubes. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Have a nice week!
Best regards,
Gina
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From: Curt Caveney
Sent: Oct 3, 2009 8:37 AM
To: sales@videodisplayprojection.com
Subject: 180DVB22R/G/B
Can you provide a quote to re-phosphor a green tube? I have the core. Thanks." |
I was afraid of that. I think she meant "minus the $100 core charge" (or maybe she didn't). Drats! 
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jkruger
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: VDC no longer rebuilding tubes. |
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| picree wrote: | I may be the last to know but this is the reply I got from VDC just today :
| Quote: | Hi Curt,
Thank you for your inquiry. We have new tubes available and the price is $595.00 each plus $100.00 core charge each. We can ship as soon as payment is received. We no longer rebuild tubes. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Have a nice week!
Best regards,
Gina
Video Display
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Caveney
Sent: Oct 3, 2009 8:37 AM
To: sales@videodisplayprojection.com
Subject: 180DVB22R/G/B
Can you provide a quote to re-phosphor a green tube? I have the core. Thanks." |
I was afraid of that. I think she meant "minus the $100 core charge" (or maybe she didn't). Drats! |
If they do not rebuild them then why would they have a core charge? Makes no sense.
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picree
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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They might send them back to Taiwan or something. Who knows?
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jkruger
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| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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If they are re-using some of the components then they are rebuilding them.
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draganm
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be grateul, $600. each was what I was paying 2 years ago for a new 8 inch tube. You could get a 9 inch back then for $900., now $1250.
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secstate
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| jkruger wrote: | | If they are re-using some of the components then they are rebuilding them. |
I think though this is probably a misuse of the term that she means the $100 charge is what they charge you to swap the hardware from old tube to new bare tube. Or maybe they do this for you from stock but require the old tube for its hardware from you at a later date. I seem to recall $100 being what they charge to swap the hardware on a tube. $595 for a new 8" tube is not bad historically. I believe the rebuilds ran $500 back in the day I actually bought two or maybe it was $400, hard to recall now six years later.
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jkruger
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I can see the $100. charge for swapping LC components, but not for coils, etc.. that must be what they were talking about.
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picree
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: |
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I'll find out about the core charge. For now she said they don't rebuild them...and I'm not going to tell her they do! 
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Nashou66
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Don't worry guys Thomas electronics doe this still, and they make just about every part needed for CRT, I think some current marquee parts are made by them and I think, not sure, that the Greg E LUG's are from here as well. go through the entire web site and you'll see what they still are doing CRT wise. I want to go to the plant some day and see if i can get a tour. I bet VDC sends the tubes there for refurbishment, I have a PDF file on my work computer of the Price list
from VDC. And t is 600 for a bare tube not sure if it was refurb, the price list is not detailed enough as they have
prices for rebuild and with or with out magnets then just some prices with tubes but you have no idea what else is involved( that is Mag's no mags, rebuild etc) I now the 100 is not for swapping magnets and such, the quote I got once for replacement of the bellow was 450 per tube and it included magnet replacement, alignment and new glycol, new C-element cost was 650 or 700 depending on colored or not. But who knows now.
http://www.thomaselectronics.com/services/refurbish_crt.php
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Many CRT displays may require some minor repairs to extend their useful life.
Thomas Electronics provides this refurbishment service. Upon receiving your
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include re-lamination, repair of leaking cooling cells, anode and other lead
replacement, and high voltage cleaning to eliminate stray emission.
A detailed test report is provided with each unit. Most repairs are warranted
for one year.
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In all cases, a new CRT is provided, which provides you with a new cathode, phosphor
screen, and high voltage lead assembly where applicable.
Thomas Electronics does not need to be the OEM for your particular CRT in order
for us to provide refurbishment services. Send us your CRT today for a quotation.
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secstate
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| jkruger wrote: | | I can see the $100. charge for swapping LC components, but not for coils, etc.. that must be what they were talking about. |
Yeah that is what I meant the front hardware on the front of the tube be it LC or AC. Having done 3 x 8" and 1 x 9", I would gladly pay for them to do it for that price.
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picree
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Cool  thanks.
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draganm
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| secstate wrote: | | jkruger wrote: | | I can see the $100. charge for swapping LC components, but not for coils, etc.. that must be what they were talking about. |
Yeah that is what I meant the front hardware on the front of the tube be it LC or AC. Having done 3 x 8" and 1 x 9", I would gladly pay for them to do it for that price. |
that's right, they're after the housing and glass. If the glass on front of AC cooling chamber is cracked it's not an acceptable core to VDC.
$595. isn't bad for brand new tube, potted in housing, filled with fresh Glycol, and a brand new Anode lead that won't leak and wipe out your HDM.
Lets put it this way, if my only options tomorrow were $1800. for a brand new set of tubes for my 8500 or $6000. for a JVC DILA machine it's a no brainer, my 8500 would stay.
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CRT_Ben
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picree if you need anything other than green I gotcha covered, for a whole lot less than getting a refurb...
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yonexsp
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How much does Thomas charge roughly for an 8" tube?
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Nashou66
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draganm
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| yonexsp wrote: | | How much does Thomas charge roughly for an 8" tube? |
$895. from what I remember 5 years ago.
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picree
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fyi...reply from VDC
| Quote: | We like to get the core back so we can remove the mounting hardware to install onto new tubes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Caveney
Sent: Oct 5, 2009 8:31 PM
To: Gina Studdard
Subject: Re: 180DVB22R/G/B
What is meant by "core charge" if VDC isn't rebuilding tubes? Do you resell them or is that cost for taking hardware off of one tube and putting it on the other tube? Thanks for clarifying. |
So, I guess it's 595 if you swap bare tube for bare tube and 695 if they have to do any mounting...
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Lets put it this way, if my only options tomorrow were $1800. for a brand new set of tubes for my 8500 or $6000. for a JVC DILA machine it's a no brainer, my 8500 would stay. |
Yes, but would someone else pay $2200 for the RS2 B-stock that AVS recently had or $1800 for a new set of tubes before installing, etc.? I don't want to sound like this forum's version of darinp2 (besides davep2 has already got that covered), but digitals both used and new are really looking like attractive alternatives. The scale used to be firmly in the CRT camp, but now it is pretty even.
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draganm
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| picree wrote: | fyi...reply from VDC
| Quote: | We like to get the core back so we can remove the mounting hardware to install onto new tubes.
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Caveney
Sent: Oct 5, 2009 8:31 PM
To: Gina Studdard
Subject: Re: 180DVB22R/G/B
What is meant by "core charge" if VDC isn't rebuilding tubes? Do you resell them or is that cost for taking hardware off of one tube and putting it on the other tube? Thanks for clarifying. |
So, I guess it's 595 if you swap bare tube for bare tube and 695 if they have to do any mounting... |
the way it worked when I bought them is the tube costs $595. + $100. refundable core charge. You ge the 100 bucks back on your CC after you good condition core gets to Charlie in Loozyanna.
The tubes were always pre-mounted, filled with Glycol, and anode lead attached and They only sold the 8" marquee tubes that way. I used to send in an extra tube for every one I bought and avoid the core charge/refund but you need to buy a lot for that to work.
| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Yes, but would someone else pay $2200 for the RS2 B-stock that AVS recently had or $1800 for a new set of tubes before installing, etc.? I don't want to sound like this forum's version of darinp2 (besides davep2 has already got that covered), but digitals both used and new are really looking like attractive alternatives. The scale used to be firmly in the CRT camp, but now it is pretty even. |
Well i couldn't fault anyone for making this choice, especially those people who picked up a surplus CRT and went on the "what the hell is wrong with it merry-go-round". $2200. is still a good chunk of change for B-stock. Question hat comes to mind is does it still have a full 1 year warranty and AFAIK the bulbs are only warrantied for 90 days on all digitals. So it's not free of risk. Hell I use to offer a 90 warranty on my re-built 8500's. Never had a single claim. 
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Curt Palme
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Guys, I got tired of speculation <grin>, so I called Charlie at VDC. Apparently they haven't rebuilt tubes for about 2 years, but have about 60,000 tubes in stock of all types, so there was no need to rebuild tubes. They are still building NEW tubes though, and have 100s (that's a direct quote) of DVB and DMB tubes in stock.
Now, I haven't bought from VDC in about 2 years, as every time I'm about to place an order, I manage to find a cache of NOS tubes that someone offers me, so that's part of the reason I've been able to drop prices on rebuilt sets without sacrificing quality or tube condition.
So all is well in tube land.
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