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WTS
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Well okay maybe not 5 years. I still think they have a ways to go to fix some of the digitalness of even the top end units. Yes the RS20 looks nice and the top end DLPs look nice, but when I go home and watch mine it just seems more realistic, at least to me and doesn't have the motion problems and yes the black level problems. It also has more depth to the image which the digitals don't have in my opinion.
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picree
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:05 am Post subject: |
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Yea OK 0.39 cents per pixel. I was just being silly. Either way...I would want them all to work. In any case I think it should go back warranty or not. And Mike-you corrected me here-it was a stuck pixel with blue stuck on (I just called it dead because it wasn't working). Not bad since it was blue but obvious on a black screen. We could see it from the front row.
Convergence: maybe there was another setting we missed but there was one that shifted the pixels. We thought that was to touch up the convergence. Sadly it only shifted the colors by one FULL pixel. Not useful at all. Any adjustments made it horrible. There didn't appear to be any way to adjust the convergence if it was only off by a 1/4 pixel or so (which it was...just a tad).
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| WTS wrote: | | Well the day is coming but it's not here yet. |
Watch out Dave might get you. 
| nuttall_chris wrote: | | WTS wrote: | | .... and I doubt the new digitals will look much better if any in the next 3 to 5 years. |
I think that's pretty nieve, look at the progress digitals have made in the last 5 years. We've gone from 1024×768 4:3 projectors with 1000:1 contrast rations for $20K to 1080P, 16:9, 70000:1 native contrast projectors for under $10K.
I expect in 5 years we will see 2160P projectors with over 500000:1 native contrast for under 10K and they will have either LED or laser light sources that will last 20000 hours or more.
CRT projectors are great and I expect there will be people still using them 10 years from now but I think the reality is that there are currently digital projectors that produce an image that in many ways are better than CRT. The only place that CRT still wins is in on/off contrast and motion resolution. In almost every other aspect digital wins hands down.
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I don't think it has been quite that extreme. My best friend bought his Sanyo PLV70 for $3500 five years ago. Digitals have moved to 1080p and there has been an increase in performance, but it has been incremental. The JVCs notwithstanding every pj is still under 10k to 1 on/off native. DLPs are hoping LEDs will save them and they just may. I am not sure if LCOS has hit the wall or if they have some big changes in store. LCDs will probably trot along on the bottom rung with Evan Powell continuing to say they are the greatest.  If you read between the lines in Pete Putnam's tour of Epson, then LCD may be at 4k by 2015.
You did mention the two things that CRT still wins at and probably will for the foreseeable future. It amazed me at Cedia how many people seemed somewhat confused when I would mention motion resolution.
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kal
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| MikeEby wrote: | | IMO a dead pixel would not be as bad as a stuck one....Even 1 stuck on (white) would be totally unacceptable. |
I used to think that way too, but on a 1920x1080 panel you don't even notice it. Lower rez yes, but on a 1080p panel no. And they're never stuck on 100% white.
That's one of the best reason to go beyond 1080p on digitals: To make half a dozen stuck pixels a non-issue.
Kal
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