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**AnalogRocks**

Hi guys,
does anyone know if the PDA-5002 video input card scale 1080i to the native panel resolution of a Pioneer PDP-503MXE?

In the PDF file it says the 5002 can handle a 1080i/50 signal. However it doens't state that in the spec's for the Pioneer PDP-503MXE.

Do these Pioneer add in cards do internal scaling?

TIA guys.

macgyver655 · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508

I'm not sure exactly what question you want answered so I'll shoot from the hip and you can clarify.

I'm showing inputs 1 and 2 which are on the 5002 will except 1080i 50 and 60, along with some other resolutions.

I doubt the card itself does any scaling as this would be processed on the signal board.

Was I close to the answer? Smile

macgyver655 · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508

Oh wait. Thats incorrect.

The 5002 is inputs 3, 4 and 5. I'm not seeing 1080i on those inputs. Sad

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I would guess the input boards function just as the input boards do on our projectors: Convert incoming signals to a reference color space - say, RGB or YPbPr 4:4:4 analog - and leave any further processing to the built-in signal processor to de-interlace, scale, etc. It would be silly to duplicate that functionality (deinterlacing, scaling) across half a dozen different interface cards.

I would assume the input cards do the A/D conversion - say, if the input to the processor is always digital. Some cards would need A/D (component), while some would not (DVI or HDMI). Or, I guess the bus connector could just connect to analog cards to an A/D converter section, while digital input cards would bypass that section.

With as powerful as the video processing is these days, the input cards are probably more hardware interface than anything else.

SC

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:19 am Post subject:

See that's where I'm hung up. The panel doesn't say it will accept 1080i 50 which is what we're trying for.

The manual for the 5002 card says it's compatible with 1080i 50. This makes me think there may be a scaler in the 5002 card.

Mac any ideas?

macgyver655 · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508

Thats interesting. The document I have says the opposite. The panel (input1 and 2) will accept 1080i, and the input card (inputs 3, 4 and 5) doesn't state 1080i.

I'm assuming your talking about the DVI connection specifically.According to the technical manual the DVI-D (input 5) does not list 1080i as a compatible resolution. However it does list the VGA and the RGBHV (inputs 1 and 2) as being able to accept 1080i @ 50 or 60.

What device are you using to sent 1080i and to what port and does the screen say anything?

macgyver655 · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508

Here's some stuff to swallow. I have more if you want.

crosstownk · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

macgyver655 · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508

I saw that chart on page 4 before. According to that chart inputs 3,4 and 5 wont work because they are on the input card, so that only makes sense. If the ports aren't there they cant work.. Confused

As far as ports 1 and 2 is says it wont except component without the card.

Anyways, if your trying to use the Fury, what port are you trying to use? Give me some more info.....

Do you have the 5002 input card?

crosstownk · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

Yes - I have the video card installed. I'm not worried what input I use as long as get HD to work. I have not yet purchased the Fury - I'm trying to determine if it will do what I need it to do. I am hoping that the fury can be used via the VGA or the RGBHV component. I'm currently using the S-Video on the PDA-5002 and would prefer to have better than that if the option is available to me.

The Sky HD STB outputs both 720p/50 and 1080i/50 (although I have read that it may be 1080i/25). 720p/50 is not an option with the 503MXE and PDA-5002 so my last port of call is 1080i.

macgyver655 · Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 8508

What kind of outputs does the Sky box have? Hdmi, DVI, component, composite?

crosstownk · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

HDMI, S-Video & SCART. So HDMI is my only option for HD but the Pioneer display is not HDCP compliant Crying or Very sad

crosstownk · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

A quick update on this.

As I wanted my Sky+HD STB to provide me with HD on the Pioneer, I contacted Sky and asked them if they could supply me with an older STB with component outputs.

The engineer called today and installed the STB. When I came home from work I made the necessary connections and switched to Input 2. The picture was green. After a quick look at the user manual I found that I needed to switch the input from RGB to Component. Once I did this all was well. The output of the Sky+HD STB is set to 1080i and I've an immaculate picture on the Pioneer.

So does the PDA-5002 scale to native? -- YES it does.

Thanks to everyone here for their help and input, it was much appreciated.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:44 am Post subject:

Thanks for that update. Glad you got it going. How was Sky to deal with when you asked them for an older set top box?

crosstownk · Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 5

Sky were quite good to deal with. I've called them on other occassions with other problems and I usually find them OK once I get through to someone with a brain in their head! This time it took two phone calls as the first rep didn't understand what I was on about - not even remotely. He started by telling me that he would fix my problem and then proceeded to go through the "switch it off/unplug the power/reboot" procedure!!!! Mad

So I hung up. The next guy knew exactly what I meant and arranged it for me. The initial appointment had to be put back as the contractor who was due to install the box didn't have the correct box. But eventually it all worked out.