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| Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: Ridley Scott's A L I E N Prequel |
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Cinematical is reporting that Ridley Scott is going to be helming directorship for the new Alien prequel. While I like the general enjoyment of the series, I wonder how well this prequel will lend to itself in the spotlight of the original film. As many of you know, there was a huge difference in story, environment, etc. between ALIEN and ALIENS whereas ALIEN was a great science fiction movie with a heavy cast of horror. Sweet!
I wonder if this is something that the economy is doing, or if Ridley is honestly a fan of the genre.
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More Aliens. Cool! Since it's a prequel their monitor screens had better be CRT!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Ridley Scott's A L I E N Prequel |
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| WanMan wrote: | As many of you know, there was a huge difference in story, environment, etc. between ALIEN and ALIENS whereas ALIEN was a great science fiction movie with a heavy cast of horror. Sweet!
I wonder if this is something that the economy is doing, or if Ridley is honestly a fan of the genre. |
I was in 6th grade when the first one came out. I'd say it was more horror than science fiction, simply because the special effects arew so cheesy. When the Alien is born on ship and jumps out, and "runs" across the room you can actually see the string they pull it across the floor with. This is one of those things best left on standard DVD.
Aliens was by far the better movie IMO, it really pulled together a fast story line with the best SE they could do at that time. Hopefully the prequel is better than the 3rd one which sucked ass.
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Don't forget the quality 4th one too. 
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | Don't forget the quality 4th one too. |
I thought the 4th one was much better than the 3rd abomination.
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I didn't mind the 3rd one. I thought the 4th simply ran into the level of absurdity the closer it got toward the ending. But, this prequel shouldn't necessarily be cast in those likenesses, but rather the original. Hopefully that is how it'll end up.
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The first two were great but it went down hill really fast after that. I remember seeing the first one at a local Cinema. There were a bunch of noisy kids a few rows down which annoyed the crap out of me but then I clean forgot them and as I was engrossed in the story. At the end as the lights came on I got a look at the faces of the noisy kids and their jaws were on the ground. I think it frightened the sh_t out of them.
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i think that a prequel showing the story of the ship that the Nostrodamo found would be fascinating.
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It was "Nostromo", Zaphod... 
Man, I really loved the original Alien film and enjoyed the details. It was probably one of the movies that really drew me into the space/sci-fi genres. Yeah, it was partially horror, but it was definitely sci-fi - it was a frickin alien in outer space! The darkness, the isolation, the alien creatures... That was a scary damn space movie. I don't think the special effects were bad at all, considering it was made in 1978! Heck, what films had special effects back then that weren't cheesy by today's standards?!?!? That was THIRTY years ago!
I, too hope this prequel is done in the style of the original as opposed to the sequels.
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stepping back a bit - one of the great achievements of Wall-E was to have the audience connect with a nonhuman character. one of the "acheivements" of Passion of the Christ was a mostly non-english soundtrack aimed at an english speaking audience.
what if the prequel for alien didn't have any humans in it at all? just those big *ss space jockeys encountering the alien? man the movie could end with the nostromo (ooops  arriving and waking up the crew.
as much as i respect and admire Sigourney Weaver's acting and skills, i really hope they don't try and make her a player in any prequel - it just would not make sense.
but then, AVP didn't make much sense either ...
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AVP wasn't necessarily designed to make sense. Fans simply wanted to see the two non-human species in a movie. I was entertained by AVP along with the black levels.
BTW, science fiction is simple and doesn't designate that horror cannot be present in it. Nor does science fiction dictate aliens have to be in it.
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| WanMan wrote: | | BTW, science fiction is simple |
Well, that has to be one of the dumbest things I've read here. Far too much movie science fiction is too simple, but as a genre, science fiction is the "literature of ideas". Whereas almost every other type of fiction is unltimately about characters, science fiction is truly about ideas. And typically, not just simple ideas.
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| Person99 wrote: | | WanMan wrote: | | BTW, science fiction is simple |
Well, that has to be one of the dumbest things I've read here. Far too much movie science fiction is too simple, but as a genre, science fiction is the "literature of ideas". Whereas almost every other type of fiction is unltimately about characters, science fiction is truly about ideas. And typically, not just simple ideas. |
Not even close to the dumbest thing I have read, but..... I have to agree with you Dave.It is not just about suspending disbelief or identifying with a well crafted character. Good Sci Fi has brought us more novel ideas and concepts and somehow still gets stuck with the geeky label.
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tonight i was watching an interview with A.C. Clarke from last year and in it he said that much of what they thought up in 2001 has now been realized in his lifetime. he found that fascinating and wonderful.
imagine the future, so that the future may be created.
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| Person99 wrote: | | WanMan wrote: | | BTW, science fiction is simple |
Well, that has to be one of the dumbest things I've read here. Far too much movie science fiction is too simple, but as a genre, science fiction is the "literature of ideas". Whereas almost every other type of fiction is unltimately about characters, science fiction is truly about ideas. And typically, not just simple ideas. |
So, you are saying my notion that science fiction in definition is complex? Can't the definition be simple and the spectrum of application be broad and complex?
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| WanMan wrote: | | Person99 wrote: | | WanMan wrote: | | BTW, science fiction is simple |
Well, that has to be one of the dumbest things I've read here. Far too much movie science fiction is too simple, but as a genre, science fiction is the "literature of ideas". Whereas almost every other type of fiction is unltimately about characters, science fiction is truly about ideas. And typically, not just simple ideas. |
So, you are saying my notion that science fiction in definition is complex? Can't the definition be simple and the spectrum of application be broad and complex? |
You made a categorical statement "science fiction is simple".
Simple is defined in the context as:
1) having few parts; not complex or complicated or involved; "a simple problem"; "simple mechanisms"; "a simple design"; "a simple substance"
2) elementary: easy and not involved or complicated; "an elementary problem in statistics"; "elementary, my dear Watson"; "a simple game"; "found an uncomplicated solution to the problem"
That statement is demonstrably wrong by quite a few examples of science fiction (or as is typically called now "speculative fiction").
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Science Fiction is simple. Its fiction with science as a focus. See, how much more simple can that be. Now, apply that simple definition to whatever you want and the human factor makes it complex.
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