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help with HV leak on LUG tubes

 
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draganm



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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: help with HV leak on LUG tubes

This is a wierd one, got a set of used LUG's installed in housings and when I run them the B + R leak, red fairly badly. Luckilly not enough to damage the set but you can hear the "sizzle" at the Red boot and ticking from the Blue. Strange thing is these are the newer style boots with clear sleeve. I've never seen these leak and I even peeled them off , cleaned the bell and re-sealed with the correct White paste that comes with new Anode leads. ANy ideas, should I just order a pair of new ones?
If so who do you call for that, Charlie in Loiusianna or Gina in florida?
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:58 pm    Post subject:

What is the white paste? I thought it is supose to be RTV or silicon? I never
had to change a HV lead yet so it's new to me.

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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject:

VDC will not let you buy HV leads by themselves, they only sell them attached to their tubes now. YOu'll need to use an old one and silicone it on.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
What is the white paste? I thought it is supose to be RTV or silicon? I neverhad to change a HV lead yet so it's new to me.
Nashou
I don't know really, it's silicone mixed with some kind of White powder. IT has a distincitve smell though, every Marquee smells like it inside.

Curt Palme wrote:
VDC will not let you buy HV leads by themselves, they only sell them attached to their tubes now. YOu'll need to use an old one and silicone it on.
great, looks like we need to have these made too , Nash ? Laughing
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject:

I can't find anything worldwide. VDC bought out Hobson Bros out of Chicago years ago, and they supplied all of the anode caps from what I've seen here.

I bought 20 anode caps and pigtails, but I think they are only rated at 20KV for 'regular' televisions.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject:

But doesn't the Splitter divide the 34.9KV to each tube? so its be 1/3 of 34.9KV for each anode lead, then yours would work Curt I think, or at least thats how i thought the splitter works, each tube at about 10KV's??? no???

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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject:

No, I wish! The splitter simply distributes the 34Kv to each tube. You'd get almost nothing with 10Kv running to each tube. There's a little series resistor inside the splitter to limit current flow a bit, but to 34Kv, those resistors more or less act as shorts.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject:

i'll call VDC tomorrow, maybe they've had a change of heart? Razz
hey nash see if they will swap you for some re-formulated bellows Mr. Green
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:34 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
But doesn't the Splitter divide the 34.9KV to each tube? so its be 1/3 of 34.9KV for each anode lead, then yours would work Curt I think, or at least thats how i thought the splitter works, each tube at about 10KV's??? no???

Athanasios


1/3rd of the current per tube, not 1/3rd voltage.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject:

If they are selling them again, I'll take 20. Smile
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject:

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If they are selling them again, I'll take 20. Smile
curt are you serious? maybe we can tempt them with a "group buy"?
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zGman



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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject:

Barco anode leads are better to contain HV - they are harder to install and seal though....
I make sure the clips are well positioned first, and then use black rtv (ge siliconeII)
with a thin applicator nozzle to backfill under the cup. This works well, if the clips
aren't dislodged, and you let the silcone cure for a couple days before usage.

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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject:

draganm wrote:
Curt Palme wrote:
If they are selling them again, I'll take 20. Smile
curt are you serious? maybe we can tempt them with a "group buy"?


Yes I am. I used to buy them 20 at a time, bought maybe 100 altogether overall, but then they shitcanned me.

Can't say I blame them, for every NOS tube I got that needed a new HV lead, they lost a sale. Trust me, I've gotten lots of NOS tubes in the last 3-4 years. Mr. Green
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