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myndex
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:21 am Post subject: Lack of "Harmony" in Logitec remotes |
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The Harmony remotes are hampered by terrible configuration software.
At vers 7.5 I'd think it would be a bit more customizable, but you are a long way from an easy to use and highly configurable product.
Here are the principal issues:
1) General cludgyness: the setup is so terribly long, involved and "Fisher-Price" simplified. It is annoying, cumbersome, slow, tedious, and limiting.
Specifically, adding and moving custom buttons, navigating through the "wizards" and trying to find where you have hidden some particular "option" is utterly aggravating. Seriously, you expect us to guess the difference from "Settings" or "Options" ??!?! - how unclear can you get?
"Customize buttons" is on the main activities page for activities, but buried in the "options" or "settings" page for devices. The inconsistency throughout the application is aggravating.
2) LACK OF CONTROL: you have designed the remote to function around "activities", yet you do not provide full control of activities. WHY? In order to have functions of a certain device available in an activity, then you have to add that device TO the activity.
But ALL devices added to the activity are turned "Full On". The light controller, air conditioning, air purifier, etc etc. We the users (your customers) need to be able to enter an activity without changing the state of every device in that activity.
For instance, when I listen to CDs, I may also want to watch TV. Or not. While listening to CDs, I need control of the TV. But when I go to listen to CDs, if the TV is off, I do NOT want it automatically turned on. I WANT THE CHOICE.
3) CAN'T REORDER DEVICES (in or not in an activity). Okay, so you want us to program the device around activities - but as noted above, even then you do not have accurate control of devices added to an activity.
We need the ability to reorder devices when not in an activity, and reorder them separately if desired for each activity. they way you have it now, the devices move all over the place in seemingly random ways, and when you have more than 8 devices it is INCREDIBLY annoying to hunt and find them in some new location each time.
Random device positions? Yea, great idea. NOT. This is a horrid "feature"!!
4) BAD IR COMMAND DATABASE. Okay, here's a case of quantity does not equal quality. It seems like every user's custom programmed commands get stuck into this database. While this might be an easy way for you to "grow" your database, using the database becomes cumbersome at best. Moreover, many commands are mislabeled, or do not function as expected. It seems that mis-named commands get into the database and never get out.
Worse, for use users, there is no way to permanently edit the database to suit our particular device. In other words, we'd like to be able to make our own localized version of a particular device and customize the entire command list - this would not affect your main database, just our remote. This way, everytime we went to adjust the programming of our remote, we wouldn't have to scroll through the hundreds of useless commands that do not apply to our device.
5) IR COMMAND LEARNING LIMITATIONS. Yes, you can learn new commands. But you have little control over those commands.
For instance, on original remotes, some commands will "stream" a commands when you hold a button down. With harmony, you seem to be able to do that only with volume. A serious deficiency.
6) CAN'T SAVE SETUPS. Right, so we make a mistake, but after we re-configure, there is no way to "get back" to a previous programmed state.
7) MUST BE ONLINE. Why? why should I have to be online for a learning remote? You should allow for offline configuration, learning, saving, etc.
SUMMARY OF MISSING FEATURES:
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Put all settings for a device in ONE place, under ONE menu. Stop spreading config pages all over the place.
Consistency: Chose one term, "settings" OR "options" and stick with it. Put related settings in the same relative place throughout the application.
Allow for direct settings controls instead of cumbersome wizards.
Allow devices in activities to NO CHANGE STATE when entering that activity.
Allow device reordering, both outside of activities, and in each activity.
Allow deleting IR commands for a device.
Allow "stream" commands (like volume) but for any command (selection choice).
Be able to "save as" setups, to store previous configurations.
Be able to work offline.
If we, as users, yell loud enough and often enough, Logitec should finally respond.
Or, we all just switch to URC brand remotes.
Andy
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rod
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:21 am Post subject: |
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I agree with most. It would be good to have more versatility in customizing activies/commands. I also would appreciate haveing the ability to store my settings locally and not have to rely on internet/logitech in case they go 'belly up" or sucked up by some other corporate giant that changes the rules.
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Person99
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Dude, I have bitched to high heaven about the suckitude of Harmony remotes. I've had to do funky tricks and even call third level support to get them to change things in the database that I can't access through the software.
But, here is the problem and I think URC is getting it. I switched from a URC to a Harmony 880 because it has more hard buttons and it is easier for my wife to use. The "help" button has helped her more than once. The state managment helps with TOAD devices which the URC doesn't have until you spend $$$. URC is catching up and I'll go back some day, but for now, the Harmony gives most all the functionality I need in a way I can package for my wife at half the price of a URC remote.
Doesn't mean I like them, I still hate my Harmony, but I'm not going to spend $250 for a URC when both my 880s cost $100 each (oh yeah, to make it easy for my wife, I have the same remote model in the living room and theater so any remote I buy--I have to buy 2 or carry the damn thing up and down stairs).
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draganm
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Well i'm glad I got to read this before dropping $100.+ dollero. What about URC, I have a local HT friend who thinks it's a good way to go. Anyone tried this yet?
MX450 - the simplest of the URC color LCD line. Supports up to 18 devices (AVR, DVD, etc.) NOT PC programmable. You program it directly on the remote.
http://universalremote.com/product_detail.php?model=154
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Person99
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| draganm wrote: | Well i'm glad I got to read this before dropping $100.+ dollero. What about URC, I have a local HT friend who thinks it's a good way to go. Anyone tried this yet?
MX450 - the simplest of the URC color LCD line. Supports up to 18 devices (AVR, DVD, etc.) NOT PC programmable. You program it directly on the remote.
http://universalremote.com/product_detail.php?model=154 |
I've looked at this. You should get it for less than $150 which is not bad. It is still two hard buttons short for my use (I need page up and page down for FiOS--the Harmony 880 and 890 do this which is why I got it--I don't like doing those functions on the soft keys because it feels awkward to use). This also only has 6 soft keys compared to the harmony's 8.
I've used alot of URC remotes. Programming them without a PC SUCK!.
For instance, here are 6 buttons every activity of mine has:
- lights on
- lights off
- lights low
- AR 1.33
- AR 1.78
- AR 2.35
Without PC programming this is more of a pain but it is doable. The new macro editing is nice for a non-PC remote.
Also, it is missing the "help" key. That means that you have to set it up (if you prefer activities which most do) with the first page being activities and the second page being devices. To resolve start up issues, you'll have to teach wife/babysitter/etc to figure out the problem and navigate to the correct device to resolve.
Lastly, since you don't have variables on this level of device, you might not be able to manage complex set ups that include TOAD devices. This is the killer for me.
I'll tell you my scenerio that bights me with cheaper remotes (you might not have one like this):
my device chain includes this:
QIP6416 (FiOS) --(firewire)--> Mitsu D-VHS --(firewire)--> JVC D-VHS
The mitsu is my primary D-VHS device, the JVC is used as its MPEG decoder and to play D-Theater tapes only.
The POS moto box (QIP6416) is a TOAD. Because firewire is buggy in the A/V world, things have to be turned on in a specific sequence. I need to do this (when starting the "Record FiOS HD" or "Watch D-VHS" activites):
1) if Fios box is on turn it off (TOAD).
2) Turn off JVC (DUDE)
3) turn off Mitus (DUDE)
4) turn on JVC (only in the "Watch" activity)
5) wait 3 seconds for JVC to come up and see the devices (only in the "Watch" activity)
6) power on Mitsu D-VHS
7) wait 1 second
8) power on the FiOS box
You could write the macro on the 450, just not with the conditional logic in step 1.
Also, if you have a TOAD device, you can't write an "All off" macro without variables.
So, a remote like this can't meet my needs unfortunately.
One last thing, EVERY URC that uses batteries EATS THEM LIKE CRAZY. If you get this, buy some rechargeables to swap in and out.
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Draganm,I have the 880 and the 1000 and love them both and the 1000 starts the Marquees and does all the recall changes etc that you need. It turns on my
Marquee, LG BH100, Lumagen set for 2.35 or 1.78 depending on what movie i put in, tuns on my Adcom 830 changes the input to 5.1 analog and then shuts off my lutron dim-able lights once its all turned on after about 5 seconds. after the movie is over i hit the off button and it all shuts off and the lights go on. slick 
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Person99
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Draganm,I have the 880 and the 1000 and love them both and the 1000 starts the Marquees and does all the recall changes etc that you need. It turns on my
Marquee, LG BH100, Lumagen set for 2.35 or 1.78 depending on what movie i put in, tuns on my Adcom 830 changes the input to 5.1 analog and then shuts off my lutron dim-able lights once its all turned on after about 5 seconds. after the movie is over i hit the off button and it all shuts off and the lights go on. slick
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This sort of simple case does work well. Their programming interface is so dumbed down that it is frustrating. OPs complaints are on target.
For instance, since it can't manage sequencing of power on operations correctly, I have to put them in the macros. It took me forever to understand that the option called "leave on all the time" actually is NOT "leave on all the time". It actually has nothing at all to do about the state of the device being on. The option "leave on all the time" is really "don't manage the power state of this device" i.e. don't send power on on activity enter and power off on actity exit (assuming new activity does not need it).
Their functionality has gotten better, but you can't really do truly powerful macros with it. You can finally associate multiple commans with one button (that took awhile to get in), so for instance, I have one button that pauses the player and brings the lights to low. But, that is as far as you can go with a macro.
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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It's this "not quite the solution, this sucks, that sucks" thing that's always pissed me off on the Harmony's (and most other remotes). They're all like 70% solutions in one way or the other. Goofy labels, goofy button graphics, crappy UI or hardware quality. They're all just "OK".
I like my 1000 alright, but I HATE Logitech's software. What an unadulterated pile of sh*t. I hate the activity-based approach, too. The Pronto's are too much damn work for what you end up with and they're too damn expensive, IMHO. The URC's are utterly uninteresting to me. Oh, and I hate IR, repeaters, pointing, etc... So, I'd sort of resigned myself to an AMX or Crestron system. I bought all the pieces to build an AMX control, but I can never find the time. I've been in permanent decision paralysis mode for months.
Then, I'm at Cliffy's triple-stack meet, and my buddy Garren tells me about Itai's iRule iPhone/iPod touch remote project. Halle-frickin'-lujah! It's an iPhone/iPod touch app, but the configuration is all done in a web-based tool and synced with the app on the iPhone/iPod touch. If you add a new device, you go to the iRule web site, log into your account, and make the changes. Make custom buttons, get buttons and commands from the community, and make your new device page. Then, next time you pick up your iPod touch or iPhone, you sync and get the new device page in your hand. The handheld device taps a Global Cache ethernet-to-serial/IR gateway for actual system control, and iRule can also talk directly to network devices like HTPCs and preprocessors.
$200-300 for the Global Cache interface (depends on which one you get), $200-ish (less if you buy used or refurb) for an iPod touch (or free if you already have an iPhone), and probably under $50 for the iRule app. Total customizability, right down to macros/activities, buttons, pages, etc. So, less money than a high-end Harmony or mid-range Pronto, and it runs on a device that you can do other things with.
Oh, and I forgot the best part! It's two-way! So, for serial- or IP-controlled devices, the device state will push back to the device. Somebody changed the volume or the decoding mode on the receiver? You just saw it change on the remote!
He's also really going to work on the community aspect for sharing of code library, button graphics, etc. He's currently in alpha, moving to beta shortly, and shooting for a fall release.
I know it's not the solution for everybody, but I'm all over it. It's exactly what I've been hoping for. I know the devices are a little dinky and don't have hard buttons, but since you don't have to point it at anything and can hold it in your hand however you like...
I think I have him convinced to let me beta. If I do, and Ita's OK with it, I'll start a thread here for those that are interested.
Itai's iRule thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1124844
Post that shows the current browser-based config tool:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16678631#post16678631
Global Cache gateway:
http://www.globalcache.com/products/gc-index.html
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Person99
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | | It's this "not quite the solution, this sucks, that sucks" thing that's always pissed me off on the Harmony's (and most other remotes). They're all like 70% solutions in one way or the other. Goofy labels, goofy button graphics, crappy UI or hardware quality. They're all just "OK". |
Yep, you just summed up all my babbling in this thread in that one paragraph! 
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Nashou66
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Crab that sounds Awesome Id like to maybe get in on this as well. it be great if somehow we could hack into the RF IR repeater of the Harmony device. Then we could use the airport express's usb to connect to the Harmony RF IR and use that as the repeater device controlled by USB via the airport express. I bet there are lots of people out there who already have one or two and tying into it with that iPhone app would be sweet!!!
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draganm
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wow, i only understood part of Dave's reply. I am not a PC guy, and really don't like when I have to go outside my comfort zone of internet, e-mail, or CAD-CAM.
To me,a little lesss functionality in exchange for a simplified user friendly interface is a good trade. I've decided to go with the URC. I'll let you know how it turns out
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Person99
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| draganm wrote: | wow, i only understood part of Dave's reply. I am not a PC guy, and really don't like when I have to go outside my comfort zone of internet, e-mail, or CAD-CAM.
To me,a little lesss functionality in exchange for a simplified user friendly interface is a good trade. I've decided to go with the URC. I'll let you know how it turns out |
If you tell what you didn't understand, I'll do better.
Anyway, make sure you read the URC programming info twice through before you do it. Pay particular attention to macros and punch throughs.
Also, since you are getting a non-PC programmable one, just set aside 2 hours at least to do this.
The very best thing you can do is get a plan. You know what buttons the remote has from the picture. Most people like activity layouts as the primary (I do). I would recommend that your first screen of soft keys be things like:
Watch BD
Watch DVD (may be the same as BD, so you don't have this just "Watch DVD/BD"
Watch Cable
Listen to CD
Listen to Turntable
And what ever other "Actitities you have". You can then use the second screen of the soft keys for you devices (marquee, BD player, etc).
Just to give you idea, here are my theater activities:
Watch FiOS
Watch D-VHS
Watch D-Theater
Watch Disc (my player does DVD, HD DVD, and BD)
Record FiOS
Dump FiOS Recording
My living room activities:
Watch FiOS
Watch D-VHS
Watch VHS
Watch Disc
Listen to FiOS
Listen to CD
Dump FiOS Recording
Make starting each activity a macro: start all the equipment needed, set the Quee to the correct memory block, etc.
The big thing is to take advantage of the fact that you have a powerful remote. Don't just make it replace the 6 remotes you have duplicating them. Put the functions you need together. So, lets say you have a different Quee memory block for scope movies (say increases the blanking or soemthing) and 16:9. Put a 16:9 and Scope button on your Watch Blu Ray "Activity" so you don't have to navigate to the Quee screen to do it. Put lighting controls on the soft keys of every activity.
So, to reiterate, look at the picture of the remote and plan out what you want on every button for every activity before you start programming.
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Oh, and if you've not been around the universal remote world much, the TOAD and DUDE may be new terms. A DUDE is a device that has discrete codes for all functions, particularly power (but also input--some consumer displays can only "cycle" through them). A DUDE has seperate power on and power off commands so a power off sent to the off device won't do anything. A power on sent to an on device won't do anything.
A TOAD is a device that does not have discrete power codes (Toggle Only Actuated Device). This means that it only has a "power" command. Sending the power command when it is on turns if off, sending it a power command when off turns it on. These f*ckers are the bain of your universal remote programming life.
If you have the misfortune of having a TOAD, do some research, some have "hacks" that you can use to get around it (a series of commands that will put it in a known state--for instance, some cable boxes with power toggle only but pressing "menu" will turn them on if they are off but display the menu if on--so sending "menu" then "power" will always set the device to "off" (i.e. a known state). So, to power it on to use in an activity, you would send it menu.power.power (that way if already on, it will still be on after the macro, if off, it will be on after the macro). One other option is to always leave it on--which is a workable solution for many situations.
Now, let me give you an example of why TOADs suck. You want to program the universal remotes "off" button to be a macro that turns everything off. Tyipcally, that is a macro that just sends everything in your system a "power off". All is good. But, if you have a TOAD and that TOAD is off, it is now on. Next time you press "Watch activity using TOAD" the TOAD gets turned off. "Variables" are memory locations you can use when programming a remote. So, you can create a variable like "TOAD_On" when you turn it on, the TOAD_on=true. That way, your power off, can just be:
if TOAD_on=true send power
Harmony's have these variables for power and input "built in" but you can't access them as the programmer of the remote. URC remotes either don't have them, or have them in a WAAAAY more powerful way the Harmony remote. The remote you got does not have them.
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Not up on my lingo but why have a different activity for D-theater and D-VHS...aren't they the same?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Greg, there were D-VHS decks that didn't have the DRM in them to be able to decode prerecorded movies, but were still excellent for dumping HD records to via firewire. Those were strictly D-VHS players. Then, there were D-VHS decks that had the DRM, so were "D-Theater" capable. I assume Dave has one of each player for whatever reason.
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Almost as stupid as me having an HDDVD player and a Bluray player?
I get it now. Thanks. I didn't get into theater when those things were coming up...not until after. 
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| ecrabb wrote: | Greg, there were D-VHS decks that didn't have the DRM in them to be able to decode prerecorded movies, but were still excellent for dumping HD records to via firewire. Those were strictly D-VHS players. Then, there were D-VHS decks that had the DRM, so were "D-Theater" capable. I assume Dave has one of each player for whatever reason.
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Mostly correct. I do have two D-VHS machines in the theater--a JVC and a Mitsubishi. All D-VHS machines just store the raw MPEG2 stream (just like what gets written to your hard drive only here on tape). The raw stream cannot be played back without a decoder.
The Misubishi is a pure data storage device--it has no decoder. Mitsubishi TVs from that era had firewire inputs and built in MPEG2 decoders, Mitsu thought the D-VHS was an upsell with the display.
Well, my projector does not have an MPEG2 decoder (and neither does anyones). So, something has to decode the MPEG2 stream for the Mitsu--that is the JVC. So, the "Watch D-VHS" is to watch non-D-Theater tapes (i.e. tapes I record from Verizon FiOS--for instance I have all 6 Star Wars in OAR HD). This powers on the Mitsu and the JVC (for the JVC to be the Mitsu decoder).
So Dave, why not just have the JVC? Well, because JVC D-VHS machines suck! The Mitsu is a superior machine for recording and playback. For instance, a common playback issue on the JVC with home recorded tapes is audio drop outs. So, my JVC is used to play D-Theater tapes (JVC never licensed the tech, so you can only play D-Theater on JVC machines) and to be an MPEG2 decoder for the Mitsu.
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Person99
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| greg_mitch wrote: | Almost as stupid as me having an HDDVD player and a Bluray player?
I get it now. Thanks. I didn't get into theater when those things were coming up...not until after. |
Well, I still use D-VHS because:
1) I have FiOS and with the exception of explosions and fast moving content, most people can't tell the difference between 1080i deinterlaced by my Lumagen and 1080p on a blu ray disc. So, with S-VHS tapes costing about $2 each and being reusable, I record just about all kids movies to D-VHS instead of buying BDs (if available) or DVDs.
2) Not all content that has been broadcast in HD has yet been offered on BD. For instance the before mentioned 6 Star Wars tapes.
On the Star Wars: given that I have them in OAR for use on my 9.5' scope screen, they look way better than scaled DVDs. My daughter has gone through a Star Wars kick in the last year (Star Wars about 6 times, Empire about 8 times, and Return about 4 times, new movies 1 or 2 each), so I'm glad I have them in HD to watch in the theater!
Many kids movies that my daughter likes (Zoom, The Shaggy Dog, Herby Fully Loaded, Racing Stripes, Ice Princess, etc) have not yet been released in prerecorded HD, so having them in HD is nice. Other kids movies she likes are just not worth me buying them on BD when I can record them for $2 per tape and it is "good enough" (for instance, The Last Mimzy, Mr. Magorium's, etc).
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That all sounds great, Dave - I wish I had the patience to do it (and FIOS from which to record the content). The only bad thing is, you're going to turn your daughter into an HD snob like most of the rest of us...
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| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | That all sounds great, Dave - I wish I had the patience to do it (and FIOS from which to record the content). The only bad thing is, you're going to turn your daughter into an HD snob like most of the rest of us...
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Ha! She already is! At 6, she knows the difference between FiOS recorded HD, HD DVD, BD, and DVD! If she doesn't see the content (that is what I'm loading it from, for example a blue case (HD), or VHS tape (HD), or plain DVD case (SD)), she asks if it is high def. If I answer yes, she sits in the front row, if I answer no, she sits in the back row!
Also, if I don't catch a movie is scope and it comes up with the letterbox bars, before I can even move she says, "make it big daddy!"
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| Person99 wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | That all sounds great, Dave - I wish I had the patience to do it (and FIOS from which to record the content). The only bad thing is, you're going to turn your daughter into an HD snob like most of the rest of us...
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Ha! She already is! At 6, she knows the difference between FiOS recorded HD, HD DVD, BD, and DVD! If she doesn't see the content (that is what I'm loading it from, for example a blue case (HD), or VHS tape (HD), or plain DVD case (SD)), she asks if it is high def. If I answer yes, she sits in the front row, if I answer no, she sits in the back row!
Also, if I don't catch a movie is scope and it comes up with the letterbox bars, before I can even move she says, "make it big daddy!" |
That is awesome...I am hoping my 2 year old will get into movies with me!
Thanks for the explanation. Man...the lengths we go to, to get stuff the way we want it.
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