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robinsj
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Thats great, look forward to an update for pgs subtitles....
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jmone
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mike,
There has been a bit of discussion with over in the Slysoft thread that probably is better placed here - In summary, would be be possible to have and option in the GUI to just mux the decoded HD Audio track as LPCM in the MKV instead of re-encoding it to FLAC?
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Nathan
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MikeEby
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| jmone wrote: | Hi Mike,
There has been a bit of discussion with over in the Slysoft thread that probably is better placed here - In summary, would be be possible to have and option in the GUI to just mux the decoded HD Audio track as LPCM in the MKV instead of re-encoding it to FLAC?
Thanks
Nathan |
Here is how it should work with the current release, if we are talking about movies with "RAW" audio tracks....When you have you have "Create HD Audio with core track" selected in the options dialog it runs eac3to and creates a .WAV file that is then merged in with MKV merge. It currently does not include a DD or DTS (core) track in this case. If you have "Create FLAC if HD Audio is present" in the options dialog it then will create a FLAC file from the lossless "RAW" track.
What file extension do you use with eac3to when making a LPCM file?
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jmone
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Hi Mike,
I did some testing on a couple of discs where I may not want to keep the original format (say DD+ and DTS-HD) but don't want to re-encode to FLAC. I used Another EAC3to GUI but under command line changed the audio extension with just .WAV (eg MyMKVFile - 4 DTS Hi-Res English 5_1 channels 24 bits 3018kbps 96kHz.wav) then muxed mannually with mkvmerge and they all played perfectly (note: I was worried that we may need to use the W64 output as the WAV files are over 4GB and some progs struggle with reading these files with a 32-bit header but mkvmerge was fine with the muxing and haali fine with the splitting).
Word of note: While it can be convenent to store the decoded audio streams in an uncompressed format they you will pay a price in size, eg:
- 5.1 Ch 48kHz/24Bit Audio takes up 1GB every 20minutes
- 5.1 Ch 96kHz/24Bit Audio takes up 1GB every 10minutes
Then again, at present there is no way of decoding DTS-HD using free Audio Decoders on the HTPC, so if you want to keep the HD Audio in an MKV File you have to either:
1) Bitstream (if you have the equipment),
2) Transcode to FLAC or
3) Decode to WAV
So a "Create WAV" may be a good additional Audio Option.
Thanks
Nathan
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MikeEby
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jmone wrote: | Hi Mike,
I did some testing on a couple of discs where I may not want to keep the original format (say DD+ and DTS-HD) but don't want to re-encode to FLAC. I used Another EAC3to GUI but under command line changed the audio extension with just .WAV (eg MyMKVFile - 4 DTS Hi-Res English 5_1 channels 24 bits 3018kbps 96kHz.wav) then muxed mannually with mkvmerge and they all played perfectly (note: I was worried that we may need to use the W64 output as the WAV files are over 4GB and some progs struggle with reading these files with a 32-bit header but mkvmerge was fine with the muxing and haali fine with the splitting).
Word of note: While it can be convenent to store the decoded audio streams in an uncompressed format they you will pay a price in size, eg:
- 5.1 Ch 48kHz/24Bit Audio takes up 1GB every 20minutes
- 5.1 Ch 96kHz/24Bit Audio takes up 1GB every 10minutes
Then again, at present there is no way of decoding DTS-HD using free Audio Decoders on the HTPC, so if you want to keep the HD Audio in an MKV File you have to either:
1) Bitstream (if you have the equipment),
2) Transcode to FLAC or
3) Decode to WAV
So a "Create WAV" may be a good additional Audio Option.
Thanks
Nathan |
So what saying you would like an option just like the FLAC option but create a .WAV instead? That should not be that big a deal...It might not be on the next update but I'll try to get it on the following one.
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jmone
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| MikeEby wrote: |
So what saying you would like an option just like the FLAC option but create a .WAV instead? That should not be that big a deal...It might not be on the next update but I'll try to get it on the following one.
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Yup - pretty much!
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MikeEby
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| jmone wrote: | | MikeEby wrote: |
So what saying you would like an option just like the FLAC option but create a .WAV instead? That should not be that big a deal...It might not be on the next update but I'll try to get it on the following one.
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Yup - pretty much! |
On a disk that only has DD or DTS (Core) do you want to keep those in their native format?
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jmone
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Actually, I want it for Discs that contain DTS-HD (both MA and HR) as there are currently no thirdparty direct show codecs you can use to play them back with (eg FFDSHOW will handle only the DTS Core). There could also be a requirment from some (I'm on the fence) about also decoding DD+ as it is not that common (but FFDSHOW now supports it). Others may want it simply because while it eats up disk space, when you are playing back you don't need a Filter at all!
I'd suggest the option is simply to decode to .WAV for any/all selected Audio Tracks. For discs that have only DD / DTS (Core) etc I'd just select a different option in the Audio Options ... though I understand you are after a workflow feel that is more set once and use forever. More off topic is another option for workflow in the GUI (but would need much more work) would be the same process but the Audio selection box pops up after Analysing / Selecting the tracks asking what you want to convert them to (sort of like ClownBD).
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Nathan
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azzkicker
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hi
i have an big problem with the new version
after i checked the dts hi res track and set up only the core and run the batch the dts hi res will conversion to an ac3
with dts hd ma and true hd i can get an flac, but dts hi res will make problems
any ideas
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MikeEby
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| azzkicker wrote: | hi
i have an big problem with the new version
after i checked the dts hi res track and set up only the core and run the batch the dts hi res will conversion to an ac3
with dts hd ma and true hd i can get an flac, but dts hi res will make problems
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Yes...DTS Hi Res wasn't supported in the current release...It will be supported in the next. You can edit the command line manually then add it to the batch.
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MikeEby
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I'd suggest the option is simply to decode to .WAV for any/all selected Audio Tracks. For discs that have only DD / DTS (Core) etc I'd just select a different option in the Audio Options ... though I understand you are after a workflow feel that is more set once and use forever.
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Ok...that's a bit harder because I can't just substitute .WAV for .FLAC in the code. It means will have to come up with some new logic when evaluating the options. Not a huge issue but different.
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More off topic is another option for workflow in the GUI (but would need much more work) would be the same process but the Audio selection box pops up after Analysing / Selecting the tracks asking what you want to convert them to (sort of like ClownBD).
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Yes, the issue there is MKVMerge has a million options as far as forced tracks, track naming, default track and so on. I won't say it can't be done but it will be a while on that one.
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I haven't fully troubleshot yet...but just thought I'd ask if anyone had already successfully ripped 'The Crazies'? I just ripped it last night (started the rip and went to bed). When I checked it this morning, it appeared to rip fine, but there was no audio track. So I started the rip again and left for work.
I'll check to see if this second attempt worked. The only thing I noticed that was different from most of my other rips was that it appears the movie is a multi-channel LPCM raw audio stream...
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jmone
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Mike, No rush - I'm still between a rock and a hardplace on what to do with discs that have DTS-HD tracks. The idea for us non-bitstreamers is a DTS-HD decoder, the only other option is to decode these tracks to something else.
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Nathan
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MikeEby
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| bobn4burton wrote: | I haven't fully troubleshot yet...but just thought I'd ask if anyone had already successfully ripped 'The Crazies'? I just ripped it last night (started the rip and went to bed). When I checked it this morning, it appeared to rip fine, but there was no audio track. So I started the rip again and left for work.
I'll check to see if this second attempt worked. The only thing I noticed that was different from most of my other rips was that it appears the movie is a multi-channel LPCM raw audio stream... |
Bob, are you ripping normally to FLAC or do you keep the HD Audio tracks untouched? If untouched then there should be a wave track.
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| MikeEby wrote: | | bobn4burton wrote: | I haven't fully troubleshot yet...but just thought I'd ask if anyone had already successfully ripped 'The Crazies'? I just ripped it last night (started the rip and went to bed). When I checked it this morning, it appeared to rip fine, but there was no audio track. So I started the rip again and left for work.
I'll check to see if this second attempt worked. The only thing I noticed that was different from most of my other rips was that it appears the movie is a multi-channel LPCM raw audio stream... |
Bob, are you ripping normally to FLAC or do you keep the HD Audio tracks untouched? If untouched then there should be a wave track.
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I just rip the HD audio tracks. NO conversion to FLAC. I bitstream to my receiver.
There should be a wave file? Where is that located? How do I merge that with the mkv??
I think this might be the first LPCM raw disc that I've done...is there something different I need to do with LPCM raw blurays vs the normal TrueHD or DTS Master?
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MikeEby
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I just rip the HD audio tracks. NO conversion to FLAC. I bitstream to my receiver.
There should be a wave file? Where is that located? How do I merge that with the mkv??
I think this might be the first LPCM raw disc that I've done...is there something different I need to do with LPCM raw blurays vs the normal TrueHD or DTS Master? |
The .wav file should be in the MKV Container. Can you post both the eac3to log, and the GUI log? To access the GUI log go to Tools>View Logs. The use the navigation buttons to find the GUI log for that movie. The Hyperlink at the bottom of the GUI log should contain link your eac3to log.
Did you look at the file with MediaInfo and verify there is no audio track? It might be something in the player not setup correctly.
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| MikeEby wrote: | | bobn4burton wrote: |
I just rip the HD audio tracks. NO conversion to FLAC. I bitstream to my receiver.
There should be a wave file? Where is that located? How do I merge that with the mkv??
I think this might be the first LPCM raw disc that I've done...is there something different I need to do with LPCM raw blurays vs the normal TrueHD or DTS Master? |
The .wav file should be in the MKV Container. Can you post both the eac3to log, and the GUI log? To access the GUI log go to Tools>View Logs. The use the navigation buttons to find the GUI log for that movie. The Hyperlink at the bottom of the GUI log should contain link your eac3to log.
Did you look at the file with MediaInfo and verify there is no audio track? It might be something in the player not setup correctly.
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Maybe it did rip correctly and my player isn't setup right...??
Here is my AnotherEAC3to GUI log:
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Analyzing .....started at 07:36:23
Analyzing complete
Starting EAC3To.exe
EAC3to Command Line arguments : "D:\BDMV\STREAM" 1) 1: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Chapters.txt" 2: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies 1080p VC-1.mkv" 4: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 4 RAW PCM.wav" 6: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 6 English Subtitle.sup" -log="F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Log.txt"
EAC3to complete
Looking for forced subtitles...
No flagged forced subtitles found, looking for other types of forced subtitles...
Likely forced subtitle not found...
MKVMerge Started...
MKVMerge Command Line arguments: -o "U:\BluRay Rips\The Crazies.mkv" "--default-track" "1:no" "--forced-track" "1:no" "--display-dimensions" "1:1920x1080" "-d" "1" "-A" "-S" "-T" "--no-global-tags" "--no-chapters" "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies 1080p VC-1.mkv" "--forced-track" "0:no" "-a" "0" "-D" "-S" "-T" "--no-global-tags" "--no-chapters" "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 4 RAW PCM.wav" "--track-order" "0:1,1:0" "--chapter-language" "eng" "--chapters" "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Chapters.txt"
MKVMerge Done!
[URL=file://C:\Program Files (x86)\ACD\Another EAC3to GUI\Logs\EAC3to\The Crazies~7-29-2010 8_10 - Log.txt/URL]
Deleting work files...
Deleting F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies 1080p VC-1.mkv
F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies 1080p VC-1.mkv deleted.
Deleting F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Chapters.txt
F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Chapters.txt deleted.
Deleting F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 4 RAW PCM.wav
F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 4 RAW PCM.wav deleted.
Deleting F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 6 English Subtitle.sup
F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 6 English Subtitle.sup deleted.
All work files deletedÛ
Total time 00:48:30Û |
Here is my eac3to log:
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command line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\ACD\Another EAC3to GUI\EAC3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\BDMV\STREAM" 1) 1: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Chapters.txt" 2: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies 1080p VC-1.mkv" 4: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 4 RAW PCM.wav" 6: "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 6 English Subtitle.sup" -log="F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Log.txt" -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 3 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:40:45, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 12 chapters
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: RAW/PCM, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
5: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: Subtitle (PGS), English
7: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
Creating file "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - Chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
[a04] Reading RAW/PCM...
[a04] Swapping endian...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Writing WAV...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Creating file "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 4 RAW PCM.wav"...
[s06] Creating file "F:\BluRay Temp\The Crazies - 6 English Subtitle.sup"...
[a04] The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 16 bits.
[a04] Caution: The WAV file is bigger than 2GB. <WARNING>
[a04] Some WAV readers might not be able to handle this file correctly. <WARNING>
Added fps value (24 /1.001) to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 144930 frames.
Subtitle track 6 contains 1218 captions.
eac3to processing took 33 minutes, 24 seconds.
Done.
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And here is a screen shot of what mediainfo says (it appears there is a 6 channel PCM in there?):
I use Media Player Classic - Home Cinema. Any ideas on why it isn't seeing the audio stream? When I play the file, it shows a speaker with a little x on it down in the bottom right and when I right click, the audio sub-menu is grayed out...
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I am wondering if there is any way to make your program into a script within xbmc so it could be ru. Within xbmc...
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i've had 2 bluray's in a row now that have failed with the "no forced subtitles found" message. (sample logs pasted below).
i've tried cleaning the disc and re-trying multiple times, riping to .iso with anydvd and then running from that. same result every time. (the iso files play fine, by the way)
is there something i'm doing wrong here? could it be my bluray drive going bad?
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command line: "C:\rip\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "G:\BDMV\STREAM\" 1) 1: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - Chapters.txt" 2: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile 1080p h264.mkv" 3: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - 3 TrueHD.flac" 5: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - 5 English Subtitle.sup" -log="C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - Log.txt" -progressnumbers
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M2TS, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:43:44, 24p /1.001
1: Chapters, 10 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: TrueHD/AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 48khz
(embedded: AC3, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz)
4: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz
5: Subtitle (PGS), English
6: Subtitle (PGS), Spanish
Creating file "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - Chapters.txt"...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Extracting TrueHD stream...
[a03] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a03] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[s05] Extracting subtitle track number 5...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[v02] Getting "Haali Matroska Muxer" instance failed. <ERROR>
[a03] Creating file "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - 3 TrueHD.flac"...
[s05] Creating file "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - 5 English Subtitle.sup"...
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Analyzing .....started at 18:36:25
Analyzing complete
Starting EAC3To.exe
EAC3to Command Line arguments : "G:\BDMV\STREAM\" 1) 1: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - Chapters.txt" 2: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile 1080p h264.mkv" 3: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - 3 TrueHD.flac" 5: "C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - 5 English Subtitle.sup" -log="C:\rip\temps\MyMKVFile - Log.txt"
EAC3to complete
Looking for forced subtitles...
No flagged forced subtitles found, looking for other types of forced subtitles...
Likely forced subtitle not found...Û
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MikeEby,
Is it possible for you to send me the the source to this program so I can make some custom modifications? The things I am thinking of creating for myself are:
Derive filename from disk title...make it still editable if user wants.
options to use different libraries to extract ac3/dts core tracks (like libav or others)
use 2 pass eac3to processing and turn on/off diag normalize
make a folder at the specified destination that has the same name as the title.
I will not publish the source or the executable anywhere, as two branches of the program might confuse people. I will also send any modifications back to you if you want. I might also be able to help you fix bugs that crop up on this forum.
thanks for sharing your work - great program.
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