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Another EAC3to GUI Plus Updated 5-31-2010
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jasonwc



Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
Skirge01 wrote:
I just spent about 2 hours trying different things with no progress. If I open a command line, I can type "java.exe -jar c:\BDSup2Sub\BDSup2Sub.jar" from anywhere and it executes without issue. But, double-clicking the BDSup2Sub.jar file never works. I installed/reinstalled both the 32-bit and 64-bit JREs, then did the same outside of C:\Program Files*, just to see if some security setting might be causing the issue. I also right-clicked the .jar and "unblock"ed it, since Windows said it came from another computer. I've tried dragging and dropping it onto (and associating .jar files with) both java.exe and javaw.exe. I also edited the system paths for Windows do include the java directories and .jar extensions. Still nothing.

I've also tried searching for the "could not find the main class" message, but have found nothing that seems to apply.


Someone else had an issue that sounds similar. It turned out the file assocation was incorrect in his system for .jar files. It sounds like you check that. You might ask the question or look at the bdsup2sub thread on doom9.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277


jasonwc wrote:
Mike,

I've done some more testing. Here's what I've found. It seems that Another EAC3to Gui doesn't do a good job handling the rarer video and audio formats. See below-

AVC 1080i60- Displays an extension of ac3; should be *.mkv
VC1 1080i50/60- Displays an extension of ac3; should be *.mkv
E-AC3- Displays an extension of ac3; should be *.eac3
DTS Express- Displays an extension of ac3; should be *.dts
DTS 2.0 (768 kbit)- Displays an extension of ac3; should be *.dts

Also, I recall 7.1 LPCM showing up incorrectly, but I can't say for sure. It should output as *.lpcm or *.flac depending on settings.

Feature Request:

If you use the command line option, it would be nice if BDSup2Jar ran after the demux to convert the subs from SUP to SUB/IDX. The subs can then be dropped in the processing directory. If you've got BDSup2Jar installed, and are demuxing the subs, there's a very good chance you want them converted. Also, it only takes a few seconds to do so through the CLI. It would also save a few steps (and mouseclicks - 3 to be precise).


Thank for the ideas. I've got a pay project that's been keeping me busy in my spare time the week and haven't had much time to devote to this project.

1080i tracks seem to be a big challenge as eac3to doesn't seem to support playlists for this type of disk. It will demux using discreet .m2ts files but will need to be handled very different and won't include a chapter file because it embedded int the playlist.

One problem is I don't have a lot of disks in this format to work with. Most seem to be nature documentary and concerts which really are not my cup of tea. Smile The E-AC3 & DTS express should be easy fix, and I'll try to get it on the next drop.

I'm not sure I follow the part about bdsup2sub. It already does run after the demux and at present there is an option to covert all subtitles in the default language to .idx and mux them in to the final file. It does not name the tracks which I plan to fix soon. Maybe you could explain the part about dropping files into the process directory?


Mike


As far as I can tell, eac3to 3.22 handles AVC and VC-1 interlaced content just fine. I was able to extract all of the Life 1080i50 (really 1080p25) and a few 1080i60 extras from Generation Kill using Another EAC3to GUI in manual command line mode. The only issue is that Another EACE3to GUI uses the wrong extension - it uses the *.ac3 extension for interlaced AVC/VC-1 rather than *.mkv. This is a trivial fix.

In addition, I extracted the files using the MPLS playlists, and was able to extract subtitles and chapters. There may be issues with some interlaced content, but the problem with Another EAC3to GUI's handling is simply that it doesn't recognize the format, so it marks it as *.ac3. It still extracts fine. It just has the wrong extension.

Regarding my feature request, I was referring to the manual command line mode. I know that in the normal mode, Another EAC3to Gui will convert the SUP subtitles to SUB/IDX and merge them with MKVMerge. What I'm requesting is that BDSup2Jar be run after eac3to demuxes the streams, even in manual command line mode, and then the subs be dropped in the process directory. This only takes a few more seconds, and I always end up doing it manually. If you're extracting the subs and have BDSup2Sub installed, you likely want to convert to SUB/IDX, regardless of whether you are using manual mode. I suspect manual mode is mostly useful for adding additional audio tracks. And even if you wish to convert the SUP to SRT/ASS, SubRip still requires that you convert to SUB/IDX. Running BDSup2Sub automatically after eac3to will simply remove a few steps and mouse clicks. It also only takes a few seconds per sub.
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MikeEby



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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject:

jasonwc wrote:


As far as I can tell, eac3to 3.22 handles AVC and VC-1 interlaced content just fine. I was able to extract all of the Life 1080i50 (really 1080p25) and a few 1080i60 extras from Generation Kill using Another EAC3to GUI in manual command line mode. The only issue is that Another EACE3to GUI uses the wrong extension - it uses the *.ac3 extension for interlaced AVC/VC-1 rather than *.mkv. This is a trivial fix.

In addition, I extracted the files using the MPLS playlists, and was able to extract subtitles and chapters. There may be issues with some interlaced content, but the problem with Another EAC3to GUI's handling is simply that it doesn't recognize the format, so it marks it as *.ac3. It still extracts fine. It just has the wrong extension.

Regarding my feature request, I was referring to the manual command line mode. I know that in the normal mode, Another EAC3to Gui will convert the SUP subtitles to SUB/IDX and merge them with MKVMerge. What I'm requesting is that BDSup2Jar be run after eac3to demuxes the streams, even in manual command line mode, and then the subs be dropped in the process directory. This only takes a few more seconds, and I always end up doing it manually. If you're extracting the subs and have BDSup2Sub installed, you likely want to convert to SUB/IDX, regardless of whether you are using manual mode. I suspect manual mode is mostly useful for adding additional audio tracks. And even if you wish to convert the SUP to SRT/ASS, SubRip still requires that you convert to SUB/IDX. Running BDSup2Sub automatically after eac3to will simply remove a few steps and mouse clicks. It also only takes a few seconds per sub.


That's good to hear about 3.22, I haven't had time to try it. Yes...The GUI can't handle anything right now that is 1080i. That does need to be fixed, I only have the US version of "Life" to test with so will see how that goes.

If you do the manual command line mode, press the add batch button after you customize your command line, the Run Command will not run bdsup2sub. Then press run batch and it should run bdsup2sub after eac3to. All sub/idx files should be in the working folder.


Mike

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jasonwc



Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
jasonwc wrote:


As far as I can tell, eac3to 3.22 handles AVC and VC-1 interlaced content just fine. I was able to extract all of the Life 1080i50 (really 1080p25) and a few 1080i60 extras from Generation Kill using Another EAC3to GUI in manual command line mode. The only issue is that Another EACE3to GUI uses the wrong extension - it uses the *.ac3 extension for interlaced AVC/VC-1 rather than *.mkv. This is a trivial fix.

In addition, I extracted the files using the MPLS playlists, and was able to extract subtitles and chapters. There may be issues with some interlaced content, but the problem with Another EAC3to GUI's handling is simply that it doesn't recognize the format, so it marks it as *.ac3. It still extracts fine. It just has the wrong extension.

Regarding my feature request, I was referring to the manual command line mode. I know that in the normal mode, Another EAC3to Gui will convert the SUP subtitles to SUB/IDX and merge them with MKVMerge. What I'm requesting is that BDSup2Jar be run after eac3to demuxes the streams, even in manual command line mode, and then the subs be dropped in the process directory. This only takes a few more seconds, and I always end up doing it manually. If you're extracting the subs and have BDSup2Sub installed, you likely want to convert to SUB/IDX, regardless of whether you are using manual mode. I suspect manual mode is mostly useful for adding additional audio tracks. And even if you wish to convert the SUP to SRT/ASS, SubRip still requires that you convert to SUB/IDX. Running BDSup2Sub automatically after eac3to will simply remove a few steps and mouse clicks. It also only takes a few seconds per sub.


That's good to hear about 3.22, I haven't had time to try it right. Yes...The GUI can't handle anything right now that is 1080i. That does need to be fixed, I only have the US version of "Life" to test with so will see how that goes.

If you do the manual command line mode, press the add batch button after you customize your command line, the Run Command will not run bdsup2sub. Then press run batch and it should run bdsup2sub after eac3to. All sub/idx files should be in the working folder.


Mike


Ah, that makes sense. I have been hitting "Run Command" without adding to the batch list. I'll try that next time.
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Skirge01



Joined: 26 Jun 2010
Posts: 7


Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
Skirge01 wrote:
I just spent about 2 hours trying different things with no progress. If I open a command line, I can type "java.exe -jar c:\BDSup2Sub\BDSup2Sub.jar" from anywhere and it executes without issue. But, double-clicking the BDSup2Sub.jar file never works. I installed/reinstalled both the 32-bit and 64-bit JREs, then did the same outside of C:\Program Files*, just to see if some security setting might be causing the issue. I also right-clicked the .jar and "unblock"ed it, since Windows said it came from another computer. I've tried dragging and dropping it onto (and associating .jar files with) both java.exe and javaw.exe. I also edited the system paths for Windows do include the java directories and .jar extensions. Still nothing.

I've also tried searching for the "could not find the main class" message, but have found nothing that seems to apply.


Someone else had an issue that sounds similar. It turned out the file assocation was incorrect in his system for .jar files. It sounds like you check that. You might ask the question or look at the bdsup2sub thread on doom9.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277


Thanks for trying, Mike. I spent almost the entire day on Google trying to figure this out to no avail, so I went ahead and posted over there. We'll see what happens.

Out of curiosity, is there any way to convince your GUI to send the full java command line arguments (i.e. java -jar "c:\bdsup2sub\bdsup2sub.jar") to launch it? I tried to force that into the path, but the GUI "yelled at me" that it wouldn't be able to do subtitles because of an invalid path. Darn error checking! Wink
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a_stockdale



Joined: 30 Jun 2010
Posts: 1


Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject:

New to this forum... perused this post for the issue I am having, albeit a small one, but did not find any info on it...

I can seemingly get the rip to .mkv to work just fine, but the preview window never plays the video correctly, instead I get an error saying HResult 0x80040265 and it doesn't start.

I am sure it's a codec issue but I have tried removing and reinstalling ffdshow and it still has the same error.

Any help would be appreciated.. thanks! Laughing
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MikeEby



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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Location: Osceola, Indiana

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:16 pm    Post subject:

The preview window can be a problem. I'm not recommending any codex packs but Shark does seem to allow the preview window to function on everything but HD-DVD's. I think there is a 64bit add-on for it too, if you're using 64bit Windows.

http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html

Mike

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Skirge01



Joined: 26 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject:

I tried everything to get this working with no luck. I finally stumbled onto this tool, which fixed the double-click issue with JARs. Currently making my first MKV.

Mike... one more feature request: The ability to tag files (primarily subtitles and audio) as preferred/default.
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jasonwc



Joined: 20 Jun 2010
Posts: 25


Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:38 am    Post subject:

Skirge01 wrote:
I tried everything to get this working with no luck. I finally stumbled onto this tool, which fixed the double-click issue with JARs. Currently making my first MKV.

Mike... one more feature request: The ability to tag files (primarily subtitles and audio) as preferred/default.


This should be trivial to implement. You just have to use the appropriate flag for MKVMerge.
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greg_mitch



Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 5320


Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject:

"UNABLE TO DETECT AUDIO TRACK IN DEFAULT LANGUAGE"

I think I got this message once before but can't remember how I fixed it. My default language is set to "English" and the audio track on this disc is DTSHDMA. I have selected HD Audio tracks with core.

I am running the most recent version of the software.

Thanks.
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jasonwc



Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
"UNABLE TO DETECT AUDIO TRACK IN DEFAULT LANGUAGE"

I think I got this message once before but can't remember how I fixed it. My default language is set to "English" and the audio track on this disc is DTSHDMA. I have selected HD Audio tracks with core.

I am running the most recent version of the software.

Thanks.


What movie are you trying to rip? Is there an English language track? DTS-HD MA is just the encoding scheme used (lossless with a DTS core). That error message would make perfect sense if there was no lossless English audio.
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greg_mitch



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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject:

jasonwc wrote:
greg_mitch wrote:
"UNABLE TO DETECT AUDIO TRACK IN DEFAULT LANGUAGE"

I think I got this message once before but can't remember how I fixed it. My default language is set to "English" and the audio track on this disc is DTSHDMA. I have selected HD Audio tracks with core.

I am running the most recent version of the software.

Thanks.


What movie are you trying to rip? Is there an English language track? DTS-HD MA is just the encoding scheme used (lossless with a DTS core). That error message would make perfect sense if there was no lossless English audio.


New In Town [don't laugh]

There is obviously an English lossless track as I have watched the movie and listened to it. Not sure why it is erroring out. I am also pretty sure I have ripped other DTS-HD MA tracks before.
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jasonwc



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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:10 pm    Post subject:

I see that the track is English DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1. I wonder if the problem is the 8 channel audio.

Try this:

Select the appropriate playlist, click the command line button, select the video and DTS-HD MA track (ensure that the extension is *.dtshd) as well as a subtitle track if you want one. Then click "Add to batch". Finally click "Run All". That should extract the tracks for you. You can then manually mege with MKVMerge GUI.
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MikeEby



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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:
jasonwc wrote:
greg_mitch wrote:
"UNABLE TO DETECT AUDIO TRACK IN DEFAULT LANGUAGE"

I think I got this message once before but can't remember how I fixed it. My default language is set to "English" and the audio track on this disc is DTSHDMA. I have selected HD Audio tracks with core.

I am running the most recent version of the software.

Thanks.


What movie are you trying to rip? Is there an English language track? DTS-HD MA is just the encoding scheme used (lossless with a DTS core). That error message would make perfect sense if there was no lossless English audio.


New In Town [don't laugh]

There is obviously an English lossless track as I have watched the movie and listened to it. Not sure why it is erroring out. I am also pretty sure I have ripped other DTS-HD MA tracks before.


Greg,

Right after you get the message press the cancel button, then go to Tools>View Last Eac3to Run. Copy and paste what's in the dialog box in this thread. I can then try to figure out what went wrong.


Mike

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greg_mitch



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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject:

jasonwc wrote:
I see that the track is English DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1. I wonder if the problem is the 8 channel audio.

Try this:

Select the appropriate playlist, click the command line button, select the video and DTS-HD MA track (ensure that the extension is *.dtshd) as well as a subtitle track if you want one. Then click "Add to batch". Finally click "Run All". That should extract the tracks for you. You can then manually mege with MKVMerge GUI.


When I click on command line it says that it is unable to detect an audio track in the correct format. I click "add to batch" and when I click run it says "not legal file path" or something.

Quote:
Greg,

Right after you get the message press the cancel button, then go to Tools>View Last Eac3to Run. Copy and paste what's in the dialog box in this thread. I can then try to figure out what went wrong.


Mike


I tried that earlier anticipating that request...it isn't going far enough to make a log...erroring out before that. All I have is the log from the last successful rip (Informant).
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MikeEby



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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject:

greg_mitch wrote:

I tried that earlier anticipating that request...it isn't going far enough to make a log...erroring out before that. All I have is the log from the last successful rip (Informant).


Ok....Try Tools>Eac3to Info, post the results....Also make sure AnyDVD is running and up-to-date. See if you can copy the disk to hard drive, that will tell you if AnyDVD is working right.

Mike

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greg_mitch



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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
greg_mitch wrote:

I tried that earlier anticipating that request...it isn't going far enough to make a log...erroring out before that. All I have is the log from the last successful rip (Informant).


Ok....Try Tools>Eac3to Info, post the results....Also make sure AnyDVD is running and up-to-date. See if you can copy the disk to hard drive, that will tell you if AnyDVD is working right.

Mike
Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

As usual...user error.

I forgot that the last update I did to AnyDVD HD required a restart and I never got around to it...IT WASN'T RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND!

D'OH!

One suggestion from all of this...can you change the error to something more self explanatory...like...

**WARNING** YOU ARE AN IDIOT! YOU DON'T HAVE ANYDVD HD RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND! THIS PROGRAM WON'T WORK UNLESS IT IS ALREADY RUNNING! HIT YOURSELF IN THE HEAD WITH A TACK HAMMER!

Or...maybe automatically open ANYDVD HD when you click to open up the GUI?

Thanks for the help guys...sorry to waste your time! Embarassed Embarassed
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Skirge01



Joined: 26 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:08 am    Post subject:

Mike,

One more request from me: ability to name tracks. I recently ripped a disc with 6 different English subtitle tracks and they all show as "undetermined", which really doesn't help me distinguish one from another. I can use mmg.exe to edit them after the fact, but it'd be much easier if I could set these things prior to running the batch job.

Keep up the great work! This is my new favorite tool!
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MikeEby



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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:31 am    Post subject:

Skirge01 wrote:
Mike,

One more request from me: ability to name tracks. I recently ripped a disc with 6 different English subtitle tracks and they all show as "undetermined", which really doesn't help me distinguish one from another. I can use mmg.exe to edit them after the fact, but it'd be much easier if I could set these things prior to running the batch job.

Keep up the great work! This is my new favorite tool!


Yes...that is next on the list along with a PGS subtitle option and audio track naming. I'm hoping to have some time this weekend to work on it.

Mike

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jasonwc



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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject:

MikeEby wrote:
Skirge01 wrote:
Mike,

One more request from me: ability to name tracks. I recently ripped a disc with 6 different English subtitle tracks and they all show as "undetermined", which really doesn't help me distinguish one from another. I can use mmg.exe to edit them after the fact, but it'd be much easier if I could set these things prior to running the batch job.

Keep up the great work! This is my new favorite tool!


Yes...that is next on the list along with a PGS subtitle option and audio track naming. I'm hoping to have some time this weekend to work on it.

Mike


I'm glad to see you're adding an option for PGS subs. For those that don't know, MKVMerge as of version 4.1.0 supports adding PGS subs to matroska video files. That means you can use the untouched PGS subtitle from the BD. While BDSup2Sub works, it converts the image-based subs which causes aliasing. You will notice that italicized subs have strong aliasing (ridges - looks like a step ladder rather than a smooth curve) regardless of the scaler used. Using the original PGS subs solves this problem. Thus, I would very much like to see this feature added.

Thanks for the hard work Mike.

Oh, and another tip- if you're using MPC-HC, make sure to set your maximum texture resolution to at least 1920x1080. The default setting is 800x600 which makes the subs look soft. Under Options, check the Subtitle tab, and change the Maximum texture resolution to Desktop or 1920x1080.
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twwen2



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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:25 am    Post subject:

I've been using this tool successfully since its early days, but I've recently re-installed windows and I've run into a problem.
The When I click "analyse" the tool displays the 'Input Stream Files' correctly (bottom left corner), but no longer automatically displays the main playlists (the 'Source Stream Files' and 'Results' fields are un-populated). When I manually select the largest m2ts file and move it into 'Source Stream Files', the 'Results' filed is still left empty and I am unable to "Add batch".

I've re-installed all the relevant tools (all the paths to eac3to, Bsup2sub, MKVmerge are correct), so I'm not too sure what's going on. I've been able to use TSmuxer and MKVmerge to complete the process manually, but I quite liked using this tool.

I'm using the latest version of the tool on win 7 x64.

Any ideas?
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