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[Curt Palme]

I wanted to put this out there, hopefully others will chime in.

I sold a Barco Data 1209s some time ago, to a customer that was running 1080p though it via a Greg Eisemann modded Port 3 card. I ran the set here with a Fury2, it worked fine at 1080p, mint tubes, etc.

Customer gets the set, complains that he has foldover on each side, mainly on the right via a 1080p HDMI signal. The 720p and other resolutions were fine.

Now, 1080p = 67Khz, which is really close to the 69Khz cutoff of the Data 1209s, but still, the sync was solid, save for a bit of foldover. By chance I got a second Data 1209s in right around the time that the customer was complaining, and he tried a number of BR sources, and I believe had a Crystalio scaler, etc to upscale other sources to 1080p.

I asked the customer to try a BR player right into the RGBHV inputs via a Fury, he said he got the same thing.

I then tried to duplicate the issue here with the other Data 1209s, couldn't get it to fold over. I was using a Moome external HDMI to RGBHV box. Solid as a rock, no foldover. Sent the customer a crapload of boards in case it was the projector, I had Greg tell me to try a bunch of different things, including changing the yoke output board. no dice. Andy (MadMrH) finally said that the Data 1209s simply could not do 1080p, even though I saw the set I sold here and a second 1209s here do it fine.

So I got the set back from the customer finally. Today I set it up on the bench, and I happened to get an Eisemann Port 3 board in on trade recently, so I tried it. Instant foldover. Nothing severe, but it was there. I could argue that you'd need an inch of blanking on each side, but then again, I'd seen other sets with zero foldover at 1080p.

I then tried an external Fury1 with and without the 1020 box, foldover. I connected my external Moome box.. no foldover! The image was a few inches narrower to boot, which explained why the image was well within the raster, whereas the output via the Fury seemed to be stretched in an H direction, thus the foldover.

I currently am out of Fury2s, but a couple shoudl show up within the next couple of days. I'm going to try one with this Data 1209s, and I'm going to try the Fury1 with a BG1208 that is rated to 135Khz.

Any input from others here? I admit, I haven't kept up with the 100s of Fury threads in that forum, but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen foldover with a Fury1/Greg modded card with any other Barcos?

<edit> I'm guessing that the foldover could be corrected with fiddling with the timing settings on a high end scaler?

Thanks!

[Curt Palme]

I wanted to put this out there, hopefully others will chime in.

I sold a Barco Data 1209s some time ago, to a customer that was running 1080p though it via a Greg Eisemann modded Port 3 card. I ran the set here with a Fury2, it worked fine at 1080p, mint tubes, etc.

Customer gets the set, complains that he has foldover on each side, mainly on the right via a 1080p HDMI signal. The 720p and other resolutions were fine.

Now, 1080p = 67Khz, which is really close to the 69Khz cutoff of the Data 1209s, but still, the sync was solid, save for a bit of foldover. By chance I got a second Data 1209s in right around the time that the customer was complaining, and he tried a number of BR sources, and I believe had a Crystalio scaler, etc to upscale other sources to 1080p.

I asked the customer to try a BR player right into the RGBHV inputs via a Fury, he said he got the same thing.

I then tried to duplicate the issue here with the other Data 1209s, couldn't get it to fold over. I was using a Moome external HDMI to RGBHV box. Solid as a rock, no foldover. Sent the customer a crapload of boards in case it was the projector, I had Greg tell me to try a bunch of different things, including changing the yoke output board. no dice. Andy (MadMrH) finally said that the Data 1209s simply could not do 1080p, even though I saw the set I sold here and a second 1209s here do it fine.

So I got the set back from the customer finally. Today I set it up on the bench, and I happened to get an Eisemann Port 3 board in on trade recently, so I tried it. Instant foldover. Nothing severe, but it was there. I could argue that you'd need an inch of blanking on each side, but then again, I'd seen other sets with zero foldover at 1080p.

I then tried an external Fury1 with and without the 1020 box, foldover. I connected my external Moome box.. no foldover! The image was a few inches narrower to boot, which explained why the image was well within the raster, whereas the output via the Fury seemed to be stretched in an H direction, thus the foldover.

I currently am out of Fury2s, but a couple shoudl show up within the next couple of days. I'm going to try one with this Data 1209s, and I'm going to try the Fury1 with a BG1208 that is rated to 135Khz.

Any input from others here? I admit, I haven't kept up with the 100s of Fury threads in that forum, but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen foldover with a Fury1/Greg modded card with any other Barcos?

<edit> I'm guessing that the foldover could be corrected with fiddling with the timing settings on a high end scaler?

Thanks!