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[dturco]

What mods would you do first to A Marquee 9500 L/C with Mike Parker mods & E tech fan mods?

[AnalogRocks]

Old bellows can be prone to leaks in some cases and you'll get a better red color.

Then once you have that squared away get the Draganm mods.

Then the Moome card

Then calibrate it.

[AnalogRocks]

Old bellows can be prone to leaks in some cases and you'll get a better red color.

Then once you have that squared away get the Draganm mods.

Then the Moome card

Then calibrate it.

[dturco]

[AnalogRocks]

Either or.

[AnalogRocks]

Either or.

[draganm]

I was going to vote for myself but old bellows are like a time-bomb.
Be prepared for a rather awful adventure though. I work with tools and my hands all day but when it comes to gluing crap together I really don't feel like I'm fully in control of things. Your just kind'a hoping for the best when you get to that point and hope the GE silicone your using isn't a bad mix.

[Mr. Green]

For you, the bellows with Red C for sure, you already have the element. Wait for the bellows to become available an go from there.

[Tom.W]

You might find a few good things here.....

http://www.hometheater1.com/techb2.htm

[Tom.W]

You can also find a few more Marquee links here.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/crt-projectors/

[Nashou66]

I have done all except the MP full mods I just have a set of his VNB's but honestly the first mod would be Frankenyoke unless you have major drifting issues with convergence. then do the cap upgrade mods Draganm offers. The Rec C-element is so elusive the only way I know of getting one is to buy an entire Sony 1292 set, but this way you get frankenyoke's and the red C element. so 700 dollars in parts and then you can sell of the remainder of 1292 parts.

Then you'll need the bellows if you score the red c-element.

you should have added the frankenyoke to your poll, but its not there so the cap upgrade from dragan is first, and I dare say this but this i would do even before any MP mods, they do that much more for stability you think you do have MP mods on a stock set., but these will make MP's mods work even better i supose...

Athanasios

[antorsae]

I vote for the frankenyokes too. Then the LVPS fan mod.

[phishin_ca]

Don't you already have the C-Element? I would order the bellows and do that first.

[stefuel]

My extreme vote for the day is NOTHING untill you become more comfortable with the projector. You need to understand that projector better and know that it is operating correctly before any attempt at modding happens. You are trying to jump in at the end of the learning curve. That is a dangerous place to start from. Even if you can follow instructions to the letter, there are certain skills that need to be mastered prior to attempting DIY modifications. Good soldering skills is a must and you don't want to be learning that on your projector. If you don't have good soldering skills, the best way to learn them is to buy a cheap electronics kit from Radio Shack and try to assemble it and make it work.

Most of the guys on this forum have been at this hobby for years and forgotten how long it took them to develope the skills it requires to do board level repairs and even simple things like tube swaps. They know and will tell you what needs to be done to get the most out of your projector but you have to do it.

You will also need to buy some equipment and understand how they work. Perhaps the Marquee modders here will provide a basic equipment list they have had to buy along the way. That should slow you down a tad

In my opinion, it would be cheaper for you to pay a one time fee to have it done for you then to buy everything needed to do it one time for yourself. One mistake in the wrong place could turn that projector into a expensive boat anchor in short notice.

[dturco]

Wow. Thanks for all the answers. First I have a Red C element to install. The fan mods were done by tim at E Tech for the last owner.The MP Mods were all done I am Not sure of which ones, I was told all of them. I won't do anything until the new bellows are available from Nashou. The Draganm Mods Are a swap out I think, Not me With A soldering Iron { I Can't solder a Jot }. The Franken Yokes are to advance for me I wouldn't even try them. I think the Silicone as long as I get a good tube is fairly strait forward. I caulk things everyday between painting, installing showers,sinks and the occasional valve cover on my ol' 84 chevy. I know every thing is not as simple and straight forward as it appears inside the 9500, and taking anything apart that is 12 + years old will have its challenges. Remove and replace is something I feel comfortable with. I did diesel to gas engine conversions in Oldsmobile, Cadillac, and Chevys, back in the 80's. I build homes now. I am accustom to using tools.

Following directions on the other hand are a last resort.

[Bruce 09]

[Nashou66]

Chip and Bruce both make great points and My input assumes you are an expert at a complete set up re initialization and a new set up again. like bruce said know how to set it up first, i can now do a complete rough set up in 15 minutes or so, to really dial it in takes a few hours or more. Once you can do that then you'll know the PJ fairly well. You will should know the menu structure inside out. the pass code for the service menu should be tattooed to your brain, doing the visual grey scale set up from Tim's site should come as second nature. And the CPC magnet's should also be easy to do(some say this is the hardest part).

Once that is done then the frankenyoke mod is still my number one mod to do, and for some it should be the only mod as nothing else really is needed. With that 1080p comes easy.

Athanasios

[schmoe]

It's funny that NO ONE voted for the Moome card (well, except me, just now), and yet that is the biggest obstacle to dturco getting 1080p bluray content to his PJ (assuming he doesn't have something else like an HDFury). I agree with the previous comments that he should relax a while and get used to what he has... but the man should be able to enjoy bluray on something like a 9500.

[schmoe]

dturco, I second chip, bruce and athan. Enjoy what you got for a while, then start thinking about upgrading. Otherwise you might find yourself in a situation where your PJ is out of commission more than working, you'll start to resent the damn thing, then you'll go on a rant about how CRT is too complicated and everyone should move to digital. Can't have that now, can we?

I'm fairly new to this like you. A properly done setup like what Athan talks about takes FOREVER for a newbie (I spent a couple hours a day for about a week). Conquer that challenge first, enjoy the outcome for a while, then consider upgrading so you'll be able to tell the difference when it comes.

Makes me wonder, though, how do us newbies know if we've done a good enough setup? Anyone in the Seattle area that can come look at what I've done? I'll provide beer!

[draganm]

[dturco]

I'm starting to feel like I'm the village idiot. Make no mistake it is not even close to reality. My poor typing skills don't allow me to be eloquent in cyberspace.There is no replacement for hands on experience with these machines.I have read
bill blues guide to setup. That is why I had the lenses, off not to replace the C Element on a whim. It was apart the C -Element fit right inside the lense so I tried it. No harm no foul.

Draganm I realize you need the boards sent to you to modify. When they come back its just put them back in there original places no soldering by me? So just take out and put back> swap.

I have re-initialized the 9500 4 times so far it takes me 30 minutes to get a decent picture on it. I am still not happy with it picture wise so I am thinking the boards are tired. The picture hasn't changed much since the first time Phishin ca helped me so I ain't doing all that bad. No I am not even close to thinking I got it, but I have a fair grasp of it.

The C-Element is, well because I have it, and it should only help as long as I do it properly. My fear of breaking something held me back from even trying to do the neck board cleaning. It did however show me that this machine is designed in a linear fashion and with some care it can be easy to work on. All of the boards are in a progression red to the left, green in the middle, blue on the right. Same as the tubes when in floor mount operation.

The boards look like a simple enough proposition. The C Element is truly involved and tedious work. But with no one around me to send it to what am I to do?

So far i am surprised that so few have said the Eye One. Without it how can I properly dial in the 9500?

Thanks again for all of the responses.

[draganm]