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Continued Blending of the Longbow's & Now 9 " Swap!
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overclkr



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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:57 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
overclkr wrote:
Looking good!


Thanks Cliff!

And thanks for the link!
It was perfect !!!

Athanasios


You got it brother. It's amazing what like minds can accomplish. Smile

Now, you have one G90 right? Hmmmm..... might have to let you borrow my spare for a bit.

THEN POST SOME SHOTS Smile

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Nashou66



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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject:

overclkr wrote:
Nashou66 wrote:
overclkr wrote:
Looking good!


Thanks Cliff!

And thanks for the link!
It was perfect !!!

Athanasios


You got it brother. It's amazing what like minds can accomplish. Smile

Now, you have one G90 right? Hmmmm..... might have to let you borrow my spare for a bit.

THEN POST SOME SHOTS Smile

AWWWW HELL YEAH! Thumbs Up


Damn!! A G90 Longbow Stack/Blend!!!!!

Shocked Shocked Shocked

Athanasios

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overclkr



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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
overclkr wrote:
Nashou66 wrote:
overclkr wrote:
Looking good!


Thanks Cliff!

And thanks for the link!
It was perfect !!!

Athanasios


You got it brother. It's amazing what like minds can accomplish. Smile

Now, you have one G90 right? Hmmmm..... might have to let you borrow my spare for a bit.

THEN POST SOME SHOTS Smile

AWWWW HELL YEAH! Thumbs Up


Damn!! A G90 Longbow Stack/Blend!!!!!

Shocked Shocked Shocked

Athanasios


Um, NO. Shall I pull my stack off the ceiling when I get new tubes? G90 STACK/BLEND. Wink

Wait, lets get six of them and do a HUGE ASS Panoramic with Eyefinity. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

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cmjohnson



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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:29 am    Post subject:

It's easiest to work out your linearity issues by using a test pattern that is a simple corner-to-corner X pattern. Only when the linearity is correct, will the lines of the X be absolutely straight. View them from the corners, looking across the screen, to get them exactly right.


This simple test pattern can be made in two minutes in PAINT.


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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject:

It's looking pretty good:


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Nashou66



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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:48 pm    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
It's looking pretty good:


Thanks Jeremy!! It was great meeting the #1 Poster on Curtpalme.com!!!!

I need to figure out that linearity issue now, it has been bugging me all day while working.

Next time we'll have a few more people over. Hope your late night drive back went better than your drive up!!

Athanasios

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject:

No issues on the drive. Got in at 3am

Nice meeting you too.

Yes you should have a mini meet. Just remember to let the heat out somehow Wink

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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:55 am    Post subject:

Ok Guys, I have wanted to try 1920x800@96hz for a while.
I have each PJ set up for 1066x800@96.

In the pic of one on one off you can see which one is the 96 hz since i do not
have the peaking circuit dialed in its attenuating. Also i did not do a good job on
dialing it in on the right PJ for 72 hz either so that shows it a little bit off as well.

I also noticed my edge focus on the right PJ is off in the blend zone, more than it
was before. I will have to revisit Scheimflug.

But 96 is definitely smoother in pans. I like it! Now i want to try 120hz !!! I
looked at it with my resolution and at that rate it will still only be 150HZ pixel clock Smile
Well within the bounds of the peaking circuit of the Vim.









1 on 1 off @ 72hz, this pattern falls in the blend zone so focus is not perfect here. Also
I need to dial it in on the right PJ....But might set everything up for 96 HZ instead.



here is 96hz, you can see the color shift of the vertical pattern.
This was a real quick convergence set up as well. I know i can do better.
you can see the verticals lines are not as well defined, the red is focused better
when i look at each color individually. This compared to the 72 hz shows how with
this peaking circuit you can only run one refresh rate.



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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:26 am    Post subject:

Well The 9 inch conversion Begins!! no turning back now!!!!







After Cliff inspired me to finally turn on my G90 from it's 3 year slumber and it worked he then scolded me to get the tube swap going on the blend or find another G90!!! So I had the tubes I got from the Gov Liq sale and decided I had to get it going!!!

He told me to just leave the PJ's where they are and put in the 9 inch tubes if the PJ's need to be moved then I can always do it later. Right now the 8500's are only blasting on 1 feet of my 13.5 foot screen. So I might get lucky and not have to move the PJ's at all.

This will also allow me to flip the tubes on one PJ so it is not RGB but BGR and have a BGR RGB set up.

My only concern is if I need to extend the umbilical cords for the swap tubes in the One PJ. Tim? Curt?


Nashou

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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:38 am    Post subject:

Say Nash

The neckboard umbilicals you have are long enuff. The projectors may need to move back a bit, a twenty percent overlap might work better for you.

What nine inch lenses are you planning? GT17s do not focus closer than 99 inches.
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:59 am    Post subject:

Where did all the pics go? Just get boxes til the last page!!
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Nashou66



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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:44 am    Post subject:

Tim in Phoenix wrote:
Say Nash

The neckboard umbilicals you have are long enuff. The projectors may need to move back a bit, a twenty percent overlap might work better for you.

What nine inch lenses are you planning? GT17s do not focus closer than 99 inches.
.


I wanted to go from blue tube mother board to the the red tube side. But looking at the schematics there is nothing specific from the umbilical cord for each color, so just connecting the blue umbilical to the red tube wont matter, just the G2 wire and the mini RCA have to match on the video amp.

I have those HD10E(HFQ 900) lenses I got form you remember? Wink

I am hoping for now I can still keep the PJ where they are. At least temporarily if they need to move back or out to the sides more I'll wait and just watch as is for a bit. I have no wear at all on my 8 inch tubes after about 600 hours of use so I am not worried.

Case, the old pics were in my Mobile me Gallery and Apple shut that down. I never transferred pics to another hosting site. One day I'll try to get them up, but remembering what pic goes where might prevent me from doing that.

Athanasios

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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:48 am    Post subject:

No worries mate, you shouldve known better than to trust Apple Laughing

It would take you a while to get them all back in where they go, looks like a fair bit of time was spent there!!
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km987654



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TV/Projector: Barco BG809s

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:04 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Well The 9 inch conversion Begins!! no turning back now!!!!




This will also allow me to flip the tubes on one PJ so it is not RGB but BGR and have a BGR RGB set up.




Nashou



How does this setup help??
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:12 am    Post subject:

Well if he puts both blues in the middle it may improve uniformity.
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject:

Id want the two blues on the outside since focus for blue is not as important as focus for red and green. and the blend zone needs a good focus for red and green. So that is why I and a few other Blenders think it be better for blue to be on the outsides.

I am not sure if anyone has done this yet. maybe Boilermaker?

Athanasios

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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Well The 9 inch conversion Begins!! no turning back now!!!!







After Cliff inspired me to finally turn on my G90 from it's 3 year slumber and it worked he then scolded me to get the tube swap going on the blend or find another G90!!! So I had the tubes I got from the Gov Liq sale and decided I had to get it going!!!

He told me to just leave the PJ's where they are and put in the 9 inch tubes if the PJ's need to be moved then I can always do it later. Right now the 8500's are only blasting on 1 feet of my 13.5 foot screen. So I might get lucky and not have to move the PJ's at all.

This will also allow me to flip the tubes on one PJ so it is not RGB but BGR and have a BGR RGB set up.

My only concern is if I need to extend the umbilical cords for the swap tubes in the One PJ. Tim? Curt?


Nashou


It's about E'ffn time!!!
I guess I need to puchase a hand gun and threaten you like Cliff Razz

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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject:

LMAO, I made that part up just to make you feel better Justin!! LMAO!!! Wink

Nashou

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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject:

Sweet! Looking forward to see the results Nash!
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Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject:

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Id want the two blues on the outside since focus for blue is not as important as focus for red and green. and the blend zone needs a good focus for red and green. So that is why I and a few other Blenders think it be better for blue to be on the outsides.

I am not sure if anyone has done this yet. maybe Boilermaker?

Athanasios


We did this 6 years ago when Mike Parker and I re-installed the Marque 9500 Ultras on the ceiling, and we did it for the reasons stated above. The only cables that have to be rerouted are the red and blue video cables from the VIM to the red and blue CRT neckboards.

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