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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: Audio control via the internet. |
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OK guys, here's what I wanna do: I wanna get into the 21st century.
A lot of electronics audio manufacturers are now making products that can be controlled via the internet, namely Crown, PEavey, etc. I have a hotel (see other thread showing the hotel sound system racks) that wants to get a price off me to change the Ivie room combining systems that are currently controlled via a 2000' RS 485 twisted pair at two computers to internet access.
Currently, I am using an 8 X 8 and a 6X6 audio matrix by Ivie which has worked flawlessly for 9 years.:
http://www.ivie.com/products_mix_audionetmanual.htm
I'm using 2 sets of 2 linked 784+ units and an RS-232 to RS485 converter box also made by Ivie. Works just fine.
What I want to change to is something like the Peavey:
http://aa.peavey.com/signalprocessors/digitoolmx.cfm
or the Ivie:
http://www.ivie.com/products_mix_iflexintro.htm
So.. being a complete novice when it comes to networking and the internet connectivity, how do I turn a network jack on the back of one of these devices so that I can type in www.curtsfancybox.com or something like that from say an Iphone in the middle of a ballroom (or sitting here at my computer) and manipulate these devices? Do I need to train myself to be a rocket scientist?
From the techs at Ivie, I have the following:
Our later mixers, including model 1026 and the new iFlex series, are designed for a TCP/IP connection via a network (including the Internet if a port is open to the Internet through which the control can pass). However, the 784/884 series are not so set up.
Just give me a basic layout as to what I need to do so that I can give the customer a quote.
Thanks!
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greg_mitch
Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 5320
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Here is how I would attempt it, but I am far from an expert so you might just want to ignore this.
Get the hotel IT staff to assign you an IP address for the controller.
Pull up the controller configuration and assign the controller to the IP address they told you.
This way you can pull up the controller anywhere on the local network.
As far as getting on the internet, I think the controller needs a server? Maybe by saying TCP/IP means it has a built-in web server?
Otherwise perhaps you can register a domain and have that domain point to the IP address that the hotel gave you for the controller. Then if there is a built-in web server application it would pop up and be ready for some manipulation.
Can't find the manual for the iflex so here is what the 1026 manual says:
| Quote: | When a computer is also successfully connected to the network as well, starting the 1026 software
will bring up the first software screen, the Network Information Screen. The window on the right will
show any 1026 units that are found on the network. The window on the left will show any 1026 units on
the network that are "IP compatible" with your computer's network setup. If a mixer is identified in the
right-hand window, but not in the left-hand window, it is not currently network-address compatible, and
therefore, cannot be controlled with your computer's network settings. Because the 1026 is an IP addressable
device, it comes with a default IP address and subnet mask programmed into it. The default IP
address in the 1026 may not (probably will not) be compatible with the IP setup in your computer.
To make a compatible connection between your computer's network port and the 1026, something will
have to change. You COULD change the networking setup of your computer to that of the 1026, but
that is inconvenient, at best. The Ivie 1026 software provides a means of changing the IP setup of the
1026 to match that of your computer. With a single software button push, you can change the 1026
networking setup to be compatible with your computer.
Simply click on the “Match Subnet” button in the Network Info screen. The previously incompatible
1026 will be adjusted to operate on your computer's networking settings, and is now identified in the lefthand
"Units Controllable From This Computer" window. If, in the future, a different computer needs to
be used to adjust the 1026, this IP adjustment procedure can be done again as the software is started up to
change the 1026 to the new computer's network settings. |
That confirms my first part...now to just figure out remote internet control...
Last edited by greg_mitch on Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:47 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24396 Location: Langley, BC
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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OK thanks! I am going to call Peavey in the AM to make sure that's how it's done, but from what little I know, that's how I envisioned it
The hotel does have a full IT department, so I'm sure they know the ins and outs of what to do from their end as to connecting it to the net.
ANy other comments from anyone?
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Zebu Fellenz
Joined: 21 Dec 2006 Posts: 2567
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Curt Palme wrote: |
The hotel does have a full IT department, so I'm sure they know the ins and outs of what to do from their end as to connecting it to the net.
ANy other comments from anyone? |
If the hotel has a full IT department why do you need to be asking these questions. Just install the thing and let them play with it
Really unless you are willing to possibly spend a few (many) hours getting this setup I would talk to them and see if they could do the networking. Granted I know nothing about this hardware but I've had my fair share of frustrations getting network/internet controllled devices to function as they should. It may be nuts easy to setup but unless I knew that going in I would be wary of quoting the job to include the networking. Stick it in the rack, wire it in to the system, plug it into the network and let the nerds play with it
Good Luck,
Erik
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