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secstate
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| dturco wrote: | Man can you tell me where to get a 9500 A/C or L/C for $500? Every where I go people think they've got gold. I always hear the same sh*t ,"I don't know anything about this but I can get more for the parts than I'm asking". If you know that then you most certainly are aware of something.
I was shafted by a Flea- bay guy Lastnight he agreed to a price with me and then relisted this morning. And for more than his original asking price. *******. Used *******.  |
Wait a while with this economy and the dropping price of decent digitals time is on your side. And you have to get away from Ebay which tends to be inflated somewhat anyway. With the Pioneer clone of the JVC RS2 down below $3000 on blow out I am guessing there will be more 9" sets hitting the market in the near future. Honestly I am tempted to go for the RS2 clone at that price.
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Curt Palme
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While I agree, the RS2 is decent looking, I wonder who in their right mind would buy a clone (probably made for Pioneer by JVC, right?) when Pioneer is getting OUT of the display business? Given the Sony G90 fiasco, I'd bet a donut that Pioneer's support for these will be nonexistent after the warranty. With this economy, I certainly wouldn't buy one, figuring I'd get maybe 3-4 years out of it.
Can anyone try calling JVC for fun, and see if they will sell bulbs for the Pioneer? I'd be curious if they'd cross reference it, or if you'd get 'we don't sell bulbs for Pioneer product'.
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draganm
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| dturco wrote: | | I was shafted by a Flea- bay guy Last night he agreed to a price with me and then relisted this morning. And for more than his original asking price. *******. Used *******. |
If it's the guy we've been talking about then my suspicions were well founded.
He originally listed for $1600., then $1700., now $1800. Maybe he thinks the item is appreciating as a collectors item. 
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draganm
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| KellenerSptM5 wrote: | Further down an avs member response:
He has a 9500 with burnt tubes and a Glycol leak. That makes it an Organ donor because I can't imagine anyone in their right mind paying a lot for a machine that needs re-tubing + possibly a motherboard, backplane , and both power supplies.
Caveat Emptor.. |
Wow, I just realized I predicted the value of the machine at $500. 8 minutes after Gary posted his POS in the open forum back in December. Nice to know my Psychic ability's haven't been damaged by all those drugs and Alcohol 
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secstate
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| draganm wrote: | | KellenerSptM5 wrote: | Further down an avs member response:
He has a 9500 with burnt tubes and a Glycol leak. That makes it an Organ donor because I can't imagine anyone in their right mind paying a lot for a machine that needs re-tubing + possibly a motherboard, backplane , and both power supplies.
Caveat Emptor.. |
Wow, I just realized I predicted the value of the machine at $500. 8 minutes after Gary posted his POS in the open forum back in December. Nice to know my Psychic ability's haven't been damaged by all those drugs and Alcohol |
Yes I noticed that in the thread on AVS. Got any horses for me to bet on?
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secstate
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| Curt Palme wrote: | While I agree, the RS2 is decent looking, I wonder who in their right mind would buy a clone (probably made for Pioneer by JVC, right?) when Pioneer is getting OUT of the display business? Given the Sony G90 fiasco, I'd bet a donut that Pioneer's support for these will be nonexistent after the warranty. With this economy, I certainly wouldn't buy one, figuring I'd get maybe 3-4 years out of it.
Can anyone try calling JVC for fun, and see if they will sell bulbs for the Pioneer? I'd be curious if they'd cross reference it, or if you'd get 'we don't sell bulbs for Pioneer product'. |
Curt I said tempted, didn't say I would but my circumstances are a bit different since I got two 9" sets cheap even accounting for having to buy a green tube. And yes I agree there are issues with Pioneer pulling out of the display business but honestly the G90 fiasco shows you there is no guarantees even if the company stays in the business. As for the bulb issue it is really a non-issue for me. My projector sees 200-350 hours of use a year. If I pickup a spare bulb now and they both last only 2k hours (half the rating) that will cover me until I need to upgrade or 11 years whichever comes first. To me I am staying CRT because it is cheaper for me to do so. I have seen an RS2 and I would be more than happy with the picture. Also my Runcos were made in 2000 and will be 9 years old soon so I assume I will get only 5 more years out of them in any case.
Oh and the Pioneer is an exact clone of the RS2 minus some cosmetic differences. So you just call up JVC with the JVC part number for the bulb and I am sure the guys on AVS would sell you the JVC bulb for your Pioneer.
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dturco
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| draganm wrote: | | dturco wrote: | | I was shafted by a Flea- bay guy Last night he agreed to a price with me and then relisted this morning. And for more than his original asking price. *******. Used *******. |
If it's the guy we've been talking about then my suspicions were well founded.
He originally listed for $1600., then $1700., now $1800. Maybe he thinks the item is appreciating as a collectors item. |
Bullseye Draganm.
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draganm
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| secstate wrote: | | Yes I noticed that in the thread on AVS. Got any horses for me to bet on? |
no sorry, don't like horses. However I will predict we will see the first up-tick in the economy this summer with clean energy and bio-tech leading the charge.
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| draganm wrote: | | Wow, I just realized I predicted the value of the machine at $500. 8 minutes after Gary posted his POS in the open forum back in December. Nice to know my Psychic ability's haven't been damaged by all those drugs and Alcohol |
Alcohol is bad for you!!! 
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stefuel
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| bbfarmht wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | Wow, I just realized I predicted the value of the machine at $500. 8 minutes after Gary posted his POS in the open forum back in December. Nice to know my Psychic ability's haven't been damaged by all those drugs and Alcohol |
Alcohol is bad for you!!! |
Don't you mean, Alcohol is bad for you???
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Why is all the rum gone?
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deronmoped
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That guy was definitely pulling a fast one.
He either did not know much about CRT's and should be willing to make the deal good when he was presented with the evidence that the value was overstated, or he was pulling a fast one. The fact that he will not make good on his word that the PJ was in better shape goes to show he could care less about being fair.
The guy is using "useful idiot logic", "I already spent the money". Curt's reply would be, "no big deal, send me the money when you get the funds".
Deron.
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JorisS
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Given the sellers statement of the state of the tubes, the picture showed by Curt and the chart somewhere on this site, Paypal should simply judge in Curts favour and reimburse at least part of the buying price (assuming you paid more than $500 Curt  ). Paypal couldn't care less whether the guy spent the money already - they want it, they take it.
Hope you get sorted out Curt - while I agree that it's a risky business buying unseen, it's absolute bollocks that the seller happens to have a 9500LC but no CRT knowledge. Sure, one can inherit it or get it for free from a generous family member or rich friend, but considering he's had it installed and working and also is well aware of the tube rating chart, I'd say some1 go kick his lame ass properly. 
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km987654
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Its obvious that this guy knows projectors and has been dishonest. The only reason internet sales work is that people have confidence in what is being marketed and the integrity of the sellers words and the integrity of forums like AVS and Curt Palme. You should all be pissed at this guy as this does not help anyone. People should check before purchasing but that does not excuse this idiot from making what appear to be false representations to a purchaser any purchaser. If you want to see the value of things drop wait until no one has confidence in anyones products for sale. Surely this guy has committed some sort of fraud!!
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KellenerSptM5
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| dturco wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | dturco wrote: | | I was shafted by a Flea- bay guy Last night he agreed to a price with me and then relisted this morning. And for more than his original asking price. *******. Used *******. |
If it's the guy we've been talking about then my suspicions were well founded.
He originally listed for $1600., then $1700., now $1800. Maybe he thinks the item is appreciating as a collectors item. |
Bullseye Draganm. |
Yep its officially a collectors item now...  It has went from $1600 to $2000 in a week, I knew I needed to buy a Marquee and not these damn Sonys.... I wish I could see gains like that in the stock market right now...
http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?projcrta&1241747414&class&3&4&
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Curt Palme
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Well I dissected the 9501 yesterday. No glycol in the set anywhere. I will be ordering a bunch of bellows as soon as funds come in, and will tear the tube down and do my first bellows replacement. I had a green tube here that was a '7', a bit better than his blue tube, and the set shows a damn acceptable image. I'll be listing the set cheap, as it still throws a better image than an 8500 due to resolution and sharpness.
Yet another life lesson learned.
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Nashou66
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| dturco wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | dturco wrote: | | I was shafted by a Flea- bay guy Last night he agreed to a price with me and then relisted this morning. And for more than his original asking price. *******. Used *******. |
If it's the guy we've been talking about then my suspicions were well founded.
He originally listed for $1600., then $1700., now $1800. Maybe he thinks the item is appreciating as a collectors item. |
Bullseye Draganm. |
I think he now posted that same PJ on Video gone for 2000, Looks likes he's trying to sell it for more than you did Draganm.
Curt I hope to get a bill from Dale for the Bellow project, unless you have another source we dont know about! But I hope these get made before I go to Greece, i'll be gone for a month.
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Curt Palme
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No worries Nashou. I've put another green tube into the set, it's running. I will take the green tube out of the LC housing, since the tube is shot, and I want to see exactly where the LC housing is leaking from. Seems that it's not leaking now, I put it face down on the floor overnight and not a drop on the floor. Regardless, I'll take 6 bellows for stock here.
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draganm
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | I think he now posted that same PJ on Video gone for 2000, Looks likes he's trying to sell it for more than you did Draganm. |
he paid $1975. with a Moome DVI card. Still, the way he's been trying to sell it is funny. I have no dispute with him, I think he's just one of those guys who doesn't know what he wants or how to get there.
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Hell, if he's posting on Videogon, it's surprising he's not trying to get $10,000. Somebody's trying to sell a Cinemabeam for $600...
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