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schmoe
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FWIW, this sounds similar to what I've had to do with my Vision One for 1080p60.
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tse
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It is not the lines that you need to change. It is the pixels. Standard 1080p has, of course, 1920 displayed pixels. Total pixels are 2200. That leaves a short (1.9us) 280 pixels for horizontal blanking/retrace. Try increasing the total pixels to 2400. That will give 480 pixels for h blanking/retrace. Use half for back porch, 240. 150 for sync and 90 for front porch. The long retrace might allow all the active pixels to fit, if not there should be plenty of raster left over letting you phase the active area out of the jail bars with short retrace.
Vertical data should be something like 1080 displayed lines, blanking lines = 55. Total lines = 1135. As always use half the blanking time for back porch or 28 lines. Generally you want the sync to be bigger than the front porch so 14 lines for sync and 13 lines for front porch. These porportions are alot more important for horizontal than for vertical.
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Nashou66
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| schmoe wrote: | | FWIW, this sounds similar to what I've had to do with my Vision One for 1080p60. |
Yepp i saw that on the other thread. Its funny though because on the 1998 9500LC i have i dont get any ringing with
the porch setting i have for 1080p@60 or 72. I figured that these are only 5 year old models they'd behave
much better.
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AnalogRocks
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | schmoe wrote: | | FWIW, this sounds similar to what I've had to do with my Vision One for 1080p60. |
Yepp i saw that on the other thread. Its funny though because on the 1998 9500LC i have i dont get any ringing with
the porch setting i have for 1080p@60 or 72. I figured that these are only 5 year old models they'd behave
much better.
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When have you ever known a 5 year old to behave? 
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barcoguy
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looks like some of these ended up on the bay
How did they come up with the price of $6000!!! For an 8500ultra
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: $6k seriously? |
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| barcoguy wrote: | looks like some of these ended up on the bay
How did they come up with the price of $6000!!! For an 8500ultra
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I didn't notice them let me look.Yepp looks like they got 7 of them!!! They paid no more than 1300 for any one of them just so people know. maybe we should send them e-mails we know how much they originally sold for. 
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MikeEby
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The only people that will get rich off of those are the trucking company. $6K what kind of drugs are they smoking.
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Nashou66
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| MikeEby wrote: | The only people that will get rich off of those are the trucking company. $6K what kind of drugs are they smoking.
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I agree, maybe 2500 max, I can vouch these are definitely much better than a used Marquee 8500 or 9500 with hours on them. I mean this resolves 1080p@60 very well, @72 its also pretty good. But No WAY are they going to get 6000.
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barcoguy
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$1300 + freight to CA!!!!
What the BS if you ask me is they did not even test them!!!!!!
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barcoguy
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:-0 thats a TON OF $$$$
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bbfarmht
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Hey I wonder if they rate the tubes at a 6?
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lostindiana
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So why are they called longbow???
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Tim in Phoenix
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| lostindiana wrote: | So why are they called longbow???
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These were custom for a type of helicopter flight simulator of the same name; they were intended for use with the lenses up and down, what is called "st0plight" mode.
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Nashou66
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | | lostindiana wrote: | So why are they called longbow???
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These were custom for a type of helicopter flight simulator of the same name; they were intended for use with the lenses up and down, what is called "st0plight" mode.
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However these were not the stop light longbows, these have the lens's and tubes oriented in the normal
orientation. These do have the 2.35 aspect ratio Mod done to them(68Kohm resistor at R704,804 and 904 on the VDM).
Also the HD145 are not color tinted, they are all clear. I do want to look at the HD145 housing more closely as They should have the holes for the pivot pins on the side if they can be adapted for a stop light config, unless it was done all electronically. then What Tim said Above is accurate also. I have heard the 9500LC that they intended and got these instead are made with custom stop light config, but those could also be the spit packs. Any how it doesn't really matter these PJ's Rock !!!!!
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mp20748
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| Nashou66 wrote: | However these were not the stop light longbows, these have the lens's and tubes oriented in the normal
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My understanding was If you turned them on their side with either blue or red lens at the top, and you would then have "stop Light"
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Nashou66
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| mp20748 wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | However these were not the stop light longbows, these have the lens's and tubes oriented in the normal
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My understanding was If you turned them on their side with either blue or red lens at the top, and you would then have "stop Light"
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Thank you Captain Obvious!!! 
Somewhere earlier we were told these would not be usable for home theater because
the lens's were rotated in the housings 90 degrees for a "Stop Light" configuration.
That is what I was referring to.
Athanasios
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mp20748
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Thank you Captain Obvious!!!
Somewhere earlier we were told these would not be usable for home theater because
the lens's were rotated in the housings 90 degrees for a "Stop Light" configuration.
That is what I was referring to.
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Now I'm getting an headache..
Not sure what you're going to accomplish by rotating the lenses 90 degrees, unless I'm missing something here??
I have seen a many simulator with the CRT projectors mounted on rigs 'SIDEWAYS' this was done to save space in the install. Most flight simulators had multiple projectors firing at the multiple screens that it took to make up the simulators viewing.
And they pulled that off by mounting them sideways to conserve space.
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lostindiana
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Those things sound pretty awesome! And it sounds like you got a heck of a deal.
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Zebu Fellenz
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| mp20748 wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: |
Thank you Captain Obvious!!!
Somewhere earlier we were told these would not be usable for home theater because
the lens's were rotated in the housings 90 degrees for a "Stop Light" configuration.
That is what I was referring to.
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Now I'm getting an headache..
Not sure what you're going to accomplish by rotating the lenses 90 degrees, unless I'm missing something here??
I have seen a many simulator with the CRT projectors mounted on rigs 'SIDEWAYS' this was done to save space in the install. Most flight simulators had multiple projectors firing at the multiple screens that it took to make up the simulators viewing.
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I believe he mispoke. From what I've heard some of the Longbows had the tubes mounted at 90 degrees.
Correct me if I am wrong of course.
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