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jkruger
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Mine has LPB03's in it also
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Gary M.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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mine had white/white 03's and was made at the end of 2001
-Gary
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secstate
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| jkruger wrote: | I don't remember what the date on it is, maybe 1999? Let me check my old posts, I'm sure it's in there.
Found it.
| jkruger wrote: | | Ah... Good work. Thought you might have been tipped off. I noticed at least three of the boards are surface mount type, Is this a 1209s? it has the iris camera. Serial number 11514xx manufactured 10/99. |
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Thanks just curious. If nothing else potentially a quick way to ascertain the production date of these projectors from a photo though I doubt there is anything substantively different between the two production dates.
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secstate
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Gary M. wrote: | mine had white/white 03's and was made at the end of 2001
-Gary |
That is interesting I had always been told that Barco 120x production had ceased in 2000. Did you ever ascertain whether your have a Data or Graphics based Runco? You probably have one of the last 120x Barcos ever made.
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Tom.W
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The 1209s Graphics has a twin set of scan coils where the 1209s Data has only one set.
The 1209s Graphics scan coils...
Never seen a Runco but I imagine they were just re-badged Data models.
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Gary M.
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Runco 1101 has all the graphics 1209s goodies but lacks the scan coils of the graphics and is data in that regard, the software in the unit is physically limited to 1080p/60, it came standard with COG and HDTV board, hopefully the software won't kick the newly installed cont mod
the specs on the unit match the graphics in everything but scan rate limit, so it is a hybrid really, with lpb/lug tubes and GT17 lenses
the unit had a bad quad and G2 board and had a blue planet dvd menu burnt in all 3 tubes 
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secstate
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| Gary M. wrote: | Runco 1101 has all the graphics 1209s goodies but lacks the scan coils of the graphics and is data in that regard, the software in the unit is physically limited to 1080p/60, it came standard with COG and HDTV board, hopefully the software won't kick the newly installed cont mod
the specs on the unit match the graphics in everything but scan rate limit, so it is a hybrid really, with lpb/lug tubes and GT17 lenses
the unit had a bad quad and G2 board and had a blue planet dvd menu burnt in all 3 tubes
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It probably also has the Data Horizontal Shift and Focus board. At least my 1100 does (smaller heat sink as compared to the graphics). I am curious what is ultimately the difference between 1100 and 1101 if any. Other than the scan rate limitation I think the Runcos because of the COG, latest firmware and colored C elements are the best factory version of the Barco 1209s series projectors for home theater usage.
That is interesting that your G2 board was bad as well. One of my two had a bad G2 board which was causing, at least in part, my HV hold down issues. The red and blue in both of my projectors are 9s no wear. The greens are a 7.5 or so, but the wear area is smallish. So I am on the fence right now whether to operate within the wear or get a new green from Greg.
Oh and I am sure that the software will support the cont mod board. In the past when I have added COG to a Barco it is instantly recognized and the option shows up in the menus.
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secstate
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| Tom.W wrote: | The 1209s Graphics has a twin set of scan coils where the 1209s Data has only one set.
The 1209s Graphics scan coils...
Never seen a Runco but I imagine they were just re-badged Data models. |
Yes they appear to be rebadged Data models. Other than the scan coils, the horiztonal shift and focus board, and the vertical and horizontal output boards also appear to be the same as the 808s Data I have. The video chain appears to be the same as the graphics.
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Gary M.
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| secstate wrote: | | Tom.W wrote: | The 1209s Graphics has a twin set of scan coils where the 1209s Data has only one set.
The 1209s Graphics scan coils...
Never seen a Runco but I imagine they were just re-badged Data models. |
Yes they appear to be rebadged Data models. Other than the scan coils, the horiztonal shift and focus board, and the vertical and horizontal output boards also appear to be the same as the 808s Data I have. The video chain appears to be the same as the graphics. |
yep, the video chain is the same as graphics, which is all that matters to me, I am going to be running 1920x800p 2.40:1 so the scan rate is plenty, plus it runs cooler with less stress
my G2 board had a big split in the focus/G2 block on the back, I am not 100% certain it was bad, but I replaced it anyway
can't wait to get his baby fired up, with colored elements, graphics 1209s video chain, COG, cont. mod., LUGs and GT17 lenses this baby is my dream come true, been wanting one of these ever since I got into CRT 10 years ago
there is also Mike or Gregs mods 
G90 what? 
-Gary
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jkruger
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| secstate wrote: | | jkruger wrote: | I don't remember what the date on it is, maybe 1999? Let me check my old posts, I'm sure it's in there.
Found it.
| jkruger wrote: | | Ah... Good work. Thought you might have been tipped off. I noticed at least three of the boards are surface mount type, Is this a 1209s? it has the iris camera. Serial number 11514xx manufactured 10/99. |
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Thanks just curious. If nothing else potentially a quick way to ascertain the production date of these projectors from a photo though I doubt there is anything substantively different between the two production dates. |
have you got any pictures to share?
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Gary M.
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my 1101 has a much bigger solid gold Runco emblem in the middle of the case versus yours jk
my case is in the junk bin, I remove them for hushboxing 
-Gary
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secstate
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| jkruger wrote: | | secstate wrote: | | jkruger wrote: | I don't remember what the date on it is, maybe 1999? Let me check my old posts, I'm sure it's in there.
Found it.
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Thanks just curious. If nothing else potentially a quick way to ascertain the production date of these projectors from a photo though I doubt there is anything substantively different between the two production dates. |
have you got any pictures to share? |
Yes I will post pics of the twins this weekend.
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secstate
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Actually I forgot I already had some photos on my machine here. They are not the best and the one of the case makes it look worse than it is in person. But here are some photos.
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jkruger
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| secstate wrote: | | Tom.W wrote: | The 1209s Graphics has a twin set of scan coils where the 1209s Data has only one set.
The 1209s Graphics scan coils...
Never seen a Runco but I imagine they were just re-badged Data models. |
Yes they appear to be rebadged Data models. Other than the scan coils, the horiztonal shift and focus board, and the vertical and horizontal output boards also appear to be the same as the 808s Data I have. The video chain appears to be the same as the graphics. |
I have a spare yoke board that looks like that one. Mine says #762121 Is there any advantage to putting this board in my PJ?
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Tom.W
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The deflection switching board # R762457 is used in both the 1208s and 1209s graphics series.
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secstate
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| jkruger wrote: | | secstate wrote: | | Tom.W wrote: | The 1209s Graphics has a twin set of scan coils where the 1209s Data has only one set.
The 1209s Graphics scan coils...
Never seen a Runco but I imagine they were just re-badged Data models. |
Yes they appear to be rebadged Data models. Other than the scan coils, the horiztonal shift and focus board, and the vertical and horizontal output boards also appear to be the same as the 808s Data I have. The video chain appears to be the same as the graphics. |
I have a spare yoke board that looks like that one. Mine says #762121 Is there any advantage to putting this board in my PJ? |
Given the significant differences that appear to be on the deflection side of things compared to the Graphics, I don't think swapping any particular board will make any difference in performance. And unless you need beyond 1080p 60Hz I am not sure they is much point to upgrading all the bits necessary to make a difference. Madhatter has done Data to Graphics upgrades and it is fairly extensive.
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Decibel
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Bump!
Simple question for BG808:
Is possible to modify the new motherboard/frame (R7625021) for use with old EHT (R7617427); old Splitter (R7617447); old quadrupler (R7622091)?
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Kiev Savoie
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i seem to recall some sort of trick for that on one of these threads. can't remember which one though.
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Tom.W
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Decibel
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I know this document very well.
In fact I seek a modify (or trick) if exist for to use older HV components (eht/splitter/quadrupler) in newest motherboard/frame.
In that document is written there that it is impossible.
However there's this note:
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