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dturco



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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: worth buying? Marquee 8000

hi, i am a newbie to crt projectors and i am thinking about buying a marquee 8000 for $600.00,to see if i like this new hobby. is this 15 year old machine worth the trouble it may cause? 2900 hours on tubes .34000 on chassis. thank you dave. : Very Happy
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject:

Can you provide the manufacture date that is stamped on the front of the unit?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:25 pm    Post subject:

2900 hours could mean very different things depending on how it was run. If the tubes are great, that seems like a reasonable price, although not stellar. My BG808s was $300 with toasted tubes, and that was probably pushing it - a year ago. If I had $600 to spend myself, I don't think I'd be jumping on an 8000 unless it was really in perfect shape - plus, they're kinda ugly. Wink
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject:

unknown manufacture date as i have not seen it yet. i too think from what i am reading that i should only look at 8500 lc type or better under $1000.00. $1500.00?
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:02 pm    Post subject:

8500LC units are pretty rare beasts so you may be looking a long time if you are limiting your search locally. I think 600 is a fair but not stunning price for an 8000. The Marquee experts will need to chime in here but I seem to recall there are some not insignificant improvements in later versions of the 8000 over earlier versions.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject:

That is a good price for a local machine, its the same as if you were paying $400. plus shipping. Assuming the tubes are clear and have strong emission. See if you can get it for less though, of course, as the market for these machines is severely limited nowadays...
The 8500 added electronic astig adjustment, but its not "significant" unless your tube magnetics are set up poorly on the 8000. I ran an 8000 for years and it had a great image, and it was dead stable, even though it was an ancient, fixed rear heat sink model.
The preference on the 8000's are the ones with the swing down one piece aluminum rear heat sink, but like I said, I had an ancient model and it worked really well for years and THOUSANDS of hours of use....
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:18 pm    Post subject:

secstate wrote:
8500LC units are pretty rare beasts so you may be looking a long time if you are limiting your search locally. I think 600 is a fair but not stunning price for an 8000. The Marquee experts will need to chime in here but I seem to recall there are some not insignificant improvements in later versions of the 8000 over earlier versions.
the 8110/8500/9500 were quite a bit better.
If it works I would offer the guy $300. and I bet he takes it. make sure it's not a 1993 model though.
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:25 pm    Post subject:

thanks for all the quick replies. also is there such a thing as a 8501 /acon?
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:43 am    Post subject:

dturco wrote:
thanks for all the quick replies. also is there such a thing as a 8501 /acon?
yes, the 01 is for the ACON, otherwise a normal 8500
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject:

All Electrohome projectors (even the ECP's) that end in "1" are ACON models. That does not garrantee that the ACON camera on the front will be there. If the camera broke, most abandoned them as better results in convergence is had from manual convergence. It's a great option if you're a druggie and short on supply. Watching ACON do it's thing is like being on acid. Laughing
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject:

Elaine Benes wrote:
The 8500 added electronic astig adjustment, but its not "significant" .
they added a hell of a lot more than just electronic stig. What about 200 extra lumens, redesigned sweep coils, higher bandwidth on the deflection circuits, contrast modulation, Blue circuit Gamma correction, improved reliability on neck-boards and both power supplies, and many other features added to software like Linearity adjustments and an hour counter just to name 2
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject:

draganm wrote:
Elaine Benes wrote:
The 8500 added electronic astig adjustment, but its not "significant" .
they added a hell of a lot more than just electronic stig. What about 200 extra lumens, redesigned sweep coils, higher bandwidth on the deflection circuits, contrast modulation, Blue circuit Gamma correction, improved reliability on neck-boards and both power supplies, and many other features added to software like Linearity adjustments and an hour counter just to name 2


My '95 8000 had both linearity control and an hour counter? Were these options not stock or only stock on the newest 8000's?
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject:

the older one with out the drop down rear heat sink are the ones that dont have all the goodies, i think these have pre 2.00 softwear versions, my 2.0 has all that except one of the linearities, i thin C. Have to check.

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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject:

great info on the 8500.I am looking into the 8500 with acon and a 8500 ultra both are priced at $1500. is that reasonable?
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject:

for the ultra yes.

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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject:

So it appears there might be a 8500 ultra sheeding crt goodness into my life. SHINY.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject:

dturco wrote:
great info on the 8500.I am looking into the 8500 with acon and a 8500 ultra both are priced at $1500. is that reasonable?


Only a fair price if the tubes are good. Keep in mind Curt Palme has two 8500's with light green wear for $1500 also. If you buy from Curt you get a warantee and you can rest assured that all the stability mods have been done to the chassis and it has been fully checked out.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject:

key word is ULTRA.

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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject:

ultra is indeed what is being sold. however is the ultra designation also liquid cooled lenses? and how will i be able to tell in e-mailed photos?
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Post the photos' here we'll tell you.
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