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Angus_rg
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MikeEby
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This one looks like it was out of "The Flintstones".
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drice1234
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I was actually in the middle of building one of these when I found this website. I had an enclosure like the picture and just threw it away the other week. I still have a tore down LCD TV, lens, lamp and ballast I was going to use for this project if anyone has a use for them. The attraction at the time was the cheap cost of the replacment bulb. CRT's took care of that issue 
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Curt Palme
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I'm just waiting for the tweaks on this one:
'if you use mahogany, the picture seems more lifelike with deeper blacks..'
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Angus_rg
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| Curt Palme wrote: | I'm just waiting for the tweaks on this one:
'if you use mahogany, the picture seems more lifelike with deeper blacks..' |
Until someone coats the inside with a beautiful gloss finish.
It probably has a warmer tone too, though you'd probably rather have maple if you want better sustain.
Granted, I have no idea what a 1080p digital projector goes for these days, but $675 for the low end seemed reasonable. I just can't believe that they charge $200 for their cases. I could build the same thing in a few hours with $10 worth of plywood.
Aside from spelling mistakes, the low end LCD controller seems pretty loaded for the money:
MST dual-HDMI board instroduction:
1. High lights:
FULL HDTV (1080p, 19020*1200@60Hz) ready with HDCP!
Main chip: MST6E89/6U689 with embeded 3D COMB FILTER and 3D Deinterlace!
Support PIP/POP and 9 image in screen
Support switching between 16:9 (movie) and 4:3 (TV) mode
Embeded NICAM/A2 DECODEER
Support TELETEXT 1000PAGE HD TEXT TV
2×20W Audio amplifier embeded
2. Inrerfaes:
TV tuner IEC
VGA 15 pin D-Sub
HDMI (19 pins)
S-Video CVBS: RCA port
YPbPr: RCA port
Video: CVBS and S-Video share 1 channel
Ear phone interface
3. Parameters:
TV: PAL,NTSC,SECA
TV: VHF-L: 49.75-160.25MHZ VHF-H: 168.25-450.25MHZ UHF: 451.25-863.25MHZ
AV: CVBS 1.0Vp-p
S-Video: S-Y:0.714Vp-p; S-C:0.286Vp-p
PC: 24bit color, 30-80KHZ/50-75HZ
HDMI: 24bit color, 30-80KHZ/50-75HZ, with HDCP support
Power: DC12V/5V, support power saving mode (<5W).
Audio amplifier: 2X20W
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Satanier
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I've built one of these, was my projector before I got an NEC XG-750.
I just used a 1024x768 15" panel. The picture quality was decent, but it was quite dark. They used to be a better deal before commercial LCD///DLP came down in price. Plus they were a fun project. I would have gotten a CRT instead though if I had known about them. $30 per bulb was part of the appeal as well.
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ronholm
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| Angus_rg wrote: |
Granted, I have no idea what a 1080p digital projector goes for these days, but $675 for the low end seemed reasonable. I just can't believe that they charge $200 for their cases. I could build the same thing in a few hours with $10 worth of plywood. |
My shop rate lets say is a reasonable 60 per hour ....
Times a "few" so 180 bucks...
Plus the cabinet grade sanded plywood costs you closer to 40 per sheet... Plus whatever fasteners???
So you are at 220 or more pretty easy
Not that I like their product or anything... But you can't fault them for that...
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Angus_rg
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My shop rate lets say is a reasonable 60 per hour ....
Times a "few" so 180 bucks...
Plus the cabinet grade sanded plywood costs you closer to 40 per sheet... Plus whatever fasteners???
So you are at 220 or more pretty easy
Not that I like their product or anything... But you can't fault them for that... |
I can't imagine that an unaccembled template would take more than an hour. Worst case, you could get two out of a 4x8 sheet. So we're talking $80 and some change for fasteners, and a 150% - change markup.
I think the cabinet grade plywood is a stretch for most here. If Icared what my PJ looked like, I wouldn't have a monstrous airplane sized PJ in my basement.
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drice1234
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I had bought one of these cases years ago. I believe that most of the people who sell these use a CNC router setup and just lay the piece of wood down and let the router go. Of course there is still some assembly and other labor involved.
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ronholm
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| drice1234 wrote: | | I had bought one of these cases years ago. I believe that most of the people who sell these use a CNC router setup and just lay the piece of wood down and let the router go. Of course there is still some assembly and other labor involved. |
Not to mention paying for the CNC machine...
Like I said... I don't like their product... But chit man... You don't have any idea how many calls I get from folks you thought building cabinets was just chopping up some plywood and slamming it together... Ect ect ect...
and then they call me to make it right....
If you want the product give the man his due, or if you can build it better cheaper faster... go for it...
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I can't imagine that an unaccembled template would take more than an hour. Worst case, you could get two out of a 4x8 sheet. So we're talking $80 and some change for fasteners, and a 150% - change markup. |
This is my point.... You figure the cost of the materials... but then include the cost of the labor in what you label as "markup"
It ain't right.... Go ahead and build the templates... Than crack out a couple box's presentable for delivery to a customer.. Those pictured on the web sight have radius's everywhere... It is more than a "simple" tablesaw operation... for a low volume product.... but I digress...
Build them as cheap as you say.... and I'd betcha that guy could sell em for ya... and if there is that much profit in the box... There is plenty off room to build them for the guy, and leave you both with some bread in hand........ Right?????? save him all that time and leave him to focus on sales... If there is really that much profit to be had, that deal would be an easy sell.....
Besides... 150% "markup" ain't totally unfair .... After paying for all the tooling, assembly, website, ec ect ect...
The mans gota eat...
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