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Sony 1040Q problem
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dkap



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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:37 am    Post subject:

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What is the higher quality cable that is already run?

Canare component cable vs. cheap composite video cables extended through a couple adapters.

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:13 am    Post subject:

So am I to assume you have the transcoder at the projector then RGBHV out of that to the RGBHV input on the projector?
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject:

Correct. Long component run, short RGB(HV) run.

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject:

Well if you cant get the transcoder hookup to work properly you could always just take one of the component cables and connect it to the video out of your dvd player and on the other end get a female rca to bnc adapter and connect it to the composite in of the projector. At 480i I really dont think you will see much of an improvement using the RGBHV. Back then many devices used RGBHV output so thats why it had that connector. The round connector was for the VPR-722 controller which also had an S-video connector. I used that connection when I had a 1020 and a 1031.

Weather you use that connection or you get the transcoder to work properly you still have to do a white balance. The tint control is probably compensating for this misadjustment which is why it may look better when you have the composite connected. This is done with the G2 and the RGB drive controls. Grab a copy of the service manual for your projector and it explains the white balance adjustment procedure. But just remember, have fun.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject:

Here's the link to your manual: http://www.curtpalme.com/Sony10xx_Downloads.shtm
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject:

The advantage of RGB versus composite video, no dot crawl and better, sharper colors.

Ideal for the 1040 would be an oppo or momitsu player set to 480i with direct RGBHV output. It CAN throw a pretty damn clean picture.
And THEN remove the crappy lenses it comes with and screw on a set of NEC HD-145 color filtered lenses. It gets much sharper and colors look GREAT.

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject:

What's on those stock? TAC-6's?
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Well if you cant get the transcoder hookup to work properly you could always just take one of the component cables and connect it to the video out of your dvd player and on the other end get a female rca to bnc adapter and connect it to the composite in of the projector.

Good idea, thanks. Actually, I recall thinking that at one point and then forgot all about it... We picked up a RCA-BNC adapter for testing the composite feed, so everything's in place for that already.

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Weather you use that connection or you get the transcoder to work properly you still have to do a white balance. The tint control is probably compensating for this misadjustment which is why it may look better when you have the composite connected. This is done with the G2 and the RGB drive controls.

I've gone through all the adjustments already and got them pretty good, but the projector wasn't in a fixed position at my neighbor's and had been moved since the initial setup, so it didn't seem worth bothering with too much fine tuning, especially if we're going to set it up at my place as a temporary solution.

Tinman wrote:
Ideal for the 1040 would be an oppo or momitsu player set to 480i with direct RGBHV output. It CAN throw a pretty damn clean picture.


I'm quite happy with my Marantz player (no RGBHV output) and don't see replacing it unless I go to BlueRay at some point...

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And THEN remove the crappy lenses it comes with and screw on a set of NEC HD-145 color filtered lenses. It gets much sharper and colors look GREAT.

How much do the NEC lenses cost? I'm looking at probably $200 to get my Barco 708s fixed and have been dragging my feet on doing so because I fear I'll never be able to put it back together, so if the Sony could be improved enough to come somewhat close in picture quality, that would be a nice option.

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject:

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What's on those stock? TAC-6's?


Think so..... plastic. Always have a blue halo. NEC lenses make a HUGE improvement.

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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject:

Tinman wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
What's on those stock? TAC-6's?


Think so..... plastic. Always have a blue halo. NEC lenses make a HUGE improvement.


Slightly off-topic but how do the HD-6's stack up? I have those on my 1041q.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject:

The color corrected HD-6's are fine. Sharper for sure than the TAC-6's.
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject:

HD-6's, Tac-6's, and HD-144 use different bolt patterns dont they?

Say would PT-43's or PT-65's fit?

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