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Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

I got the same e-mail at my paypal account e-mail. cool

Athanasios

PaulB · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject:

Right, heres a question (if I can post it here?).

The last time I used a VIM-HD, the resulting display was rotated about 30degrees (left or right I can't remember). Stuff sourced from my HDMI HTPC was perfect, raster was dead center. This rotation I presume was due to timing issues (1080i 50hz from Sky HD digital Satellite) and can't be fixed in the pj (correct?). I never really followed this through as modding took priority over actually watching movies (blame Nash!) but with a new VIM-HD on its way and an imminent install its bugging me a bit.

Now, I presume that the same timing issues will again apply to the new card (won't know until I try it), if so, do I need a video processor to adjust the timings to keep the raster centered? Nothing on the VIM-HD that can be adjusted per input to handle raster rotation (doubt it but thought I'd ask anyway)?

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

That sounds like a deflection coil shifted, or a frankenyoke installed with the coils in the opposite direction. But since your HTPC was perfect it doesn't seem to be that.

I have no Idea on this one.

Nash

PaulB · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject:

Yes, i used the HTPC to set up the Marquee so it kinda has to be a timing thing. I've seen this mentioned somewhere else on the forum but can't recall where and don't think there was an easy solution other than adjust the input timings.

Hey, might not happen this time - fingers crossed!

Is there anything that could get an external HDMI input into the HTPC that the HTPC could then output? Nothing cheap that could do it I would imagine.

CIR Engineering · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:34 pm Post subject:

PaulB · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject:

CIR Engineering · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject:

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Paul I told you not to get rid of the Lumagen and you did it anyways.

Craig is the one who first into'd me to Lumagen for my Mitsubishi RPTV. I soon after got the HDQ for my Marquee.

I don't see how anyone with a CRT can do with out for external sources not PC based. I don want the HTPC guys to start arguing.

Nashou

WTS · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1276 Location: Calgary

Hi Nashou,

Tell me why everyone should have a Lumagen if they have a CRT? What Lumagen model and how much?

HaydnG90 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1356

Not sure why the Lumagen would be impt running a CRT and bluray source, unless you wanted to use some strange input frequencies, manipulate gamma (which doesn't seem to work all that well on the Moome card), fine tune colorimetry, porches etc. I had a Lumagen HDP Pro but sold it after switching from an SDI SD DVD player to HD-DVD and BR. I was primarily using it to scale to 960P on my BG 808S after getting so frustrated dealing with HTPC.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

Any of the HDP/HDQ or Vision Pro series Walt. they have great flexibility and the 11 point gamma adjustment really helps the details in the low end with out hurting FTB. And even with 1080p@60 from a 24fps source I see no judder. Also great Customer support. With some PJ's like the marquee that like longer sync timings greater than 1us its hard to get the entire image form BD on the screen with out custom timings. I had a DVDO 50 for a week to demo and I liked the image and gamma control the Lumagen offer.

Used ones I have seen from 150(Hdp) to 800 (HDQ/Vision Pro) They also added some Color management controls like the Radiance but not the full version, I think the Primary color control is not in there due to hardware limitations.

And mated to the Moome Vim -HD its a nice combo.

But ask Craig too, they are a nice VP for the Money if you find one used.

Athanasios

WTS · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1276 Location: Calgary

Hi Anthansios,

The only thing I can think of that I might want one for is to do 72Hz. I suppose if I could pick up up for a few hundred bucks then I'd give it a try. Do ones that cheap have HDMI in/out? I'm not sure I'd want to spend 1k for one for the extra that I "might "get out of it.

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

The HDP/HDQ and Vision Pro all have DVI ins and Outs that you can select as any number of outputs, RGBHV,YUV,DVI, etc.

Also some you might find with a SDI input if you still use SD SDI source, which really looks good for SD ont he lumagens.

Also you can do 800p@72 if you want out the DVI for Blu ray 2.4 movies, but 1080p@72 is only out RGBHV.

Athanasios

WTS · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1276 Location: Calgary

I don't want DVI I/O, which ones have HDMI I/O and what are they worth?

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

PaulB · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject:

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

DVDO Edge sucks no custom timings for CRT from what i understand.

Athanasios

WTS · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1276 Location: Calgary

I don't want DVi because of it being RGB 444, I'd rather use 422.

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

The Lumagen Vision allows selection on the input only for RGB or YCbCr 444/422 (output is fixed at RGB). But I assume you want YUV 422 out, then you either need the radiance XD or XS and both are expensive, or the Tv-one's that also out put YUV out via DVI, one of the only ones with DVI that i know does it, and those are also expensive.

Athanasios

1031 · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 657 Location: Finland