CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum

[Curt Palme]

Sales at this point are about 1 a week or so. Compare that to 1 a day in 2001.

[Curt Palme]

Sales at this point are about 1 a week or so. Compare that to 1 a day in 2001.

[Person99]

[draganm]

[ecrabb]

I have to agree with you, Dave. The record comparison just isn't a good one. Why? Because cost isn't even the major issue. Turntables and CRT's can both be had relatively inexpensively, and the CRT's will continue to get cheaper. The problem is the records and turntables aren't much more inconvenient than CD's or CD players (if you take away the portability factor). CRT projectors? Fughgettaboudit. Think about the massive size and weight, fan noise, heat, and care and feeding. The tube cost is on top of all that.

There will be a point - and I think we're just 2-3 years away - when there will be really, really good, new digital projectors selling for under $2000 that surpass CRT in every way, save for absolute black and repairability. At that point, 8" EM machines will be like 7" ES machines now - not really worth the shipping - and you'll be able to buy a G90 or a comparable digital for similar money - as in, under $2000. One weighs 240 pounds, requires a hush box, and takes some engineering and half a day of work just to hang it on the ceiling. The other gets left on your porch by the UPS guy, weighs 20 pounds, is relatively quiet, needs no scaler, and takes all of half an hour to hang on the ceiling. You'll be able to afford/justify selling it and upgrading every couple of years just like a digital camera because it isn't a complete nightmare to move in and out of the house. Just box it up and ship it. There's also the whole scope thing, too.

Sorry, but it's pretty obvious where things have been and are going. It's just a matter of exactly how long it takes. I have no illusions about how little my G70 will be worth a year or two from now.

Will some people still have CRT projectors? Sure. Just not many, and it will be nothing like vinyl and turntables.

SC

[Ridebreck]

Curt, as for your driveway, it's usually not the cargo that you need to be concerned about. It's the piece of equipment that's unloading the cargo. You shouldn't have a problem though.

[kal]

[kal]

[Z-Photo]

But you can re-use all the hushbox ventaliation for a smoke room

[Person99]

[ecrabb]

Yes, Dave - I meant decent. Take the current handful of 1080p digitals for around $2000-2500. I realize that it won't be as if you'll be able to buy that level of projector a few years from now for $500 new. But, at the same price point of $2000, the projectors two years from now will likely have slightly better blacks, slightly more contrast, slightly better colorimetry, a better scaler, etc. In effect, a better projector for the same money. Yes, they're getting pretty mature, and yes, the improvements will be incremental, but they will be improvements nonetheless. Just like computers, actually. Same money, more doodads, faster processor, etc.

As for absolute black, I wasn't really comparing high-end to high-end. Since most of us here won't be buying a $6000 projector anytime soon, I'm assuming that by far, most of us would be looking at the $2000-3000 price point when it comes to time to make the jump. At that point, I don't think the blacks are quite as good as say, my G70... But, you're right - "pick your poison" is exactly the point we're at right now.

OK, so it took you almost as long to hang your projector and lens as I spent hanging the G70. Still, you didn't need any 1/2-inch ratchets, winches or multiple guys lifting it off the floor.

SC

[Person99]

[WTS]

I think that when they can finally change the light source from the hi temp heat sources they use now that it will probably increase the life span of the whole PJ. When that takes place I'll start looking into a digital.
At the moment I'm not interested in buying something that contains a light source that can die at a flick of a switch and cost hundreds to replace not to mention the damage what the excessive heat does to the electronics in these ovens I mean PJs.

[Angus_rg]

[km987654]

There is no doubt that the crt market is getting smaller but its not dead and I believe history shows the really good (superseded) technology always has a place. AS mentioned records are still here despite CDs being around for almost 30 years. Valves are still here after almost 50 years of transistors. There are people who still use film SLR cameras even though the digital counterpart is cheaper.

Every technology has its benefits and as long as those benefits are meaningful to people they will continue to use the technology. In the case of CRT and digital projectors digitals will never produce the same image as a CRT they cannot because they are a completely different technology. That does not mean to say that digitals cannot produce a great picture but there will be aspects of imaging that a digital will do differently because of the nature of the technology. Its simply a question of what you are looking for.

[SisterOfMercy]

The fun in a decent record player (say a Scheu Premier) is that the software is so cheap (most of it). You can pick up a record for 50 eurocent (2,5 us dollar) and when it's good you do not have to buy the CD to get a reasonable sound quality.

And CRT is more fun than digital. To me the size and weight does not seem like a disadvantage. I like having a CRT in my living room. A digital is often easy enough for technology nitwits, setting one up does not give the satisfaction the way a CRT does.

I also do not have to write off my CRT in two to three years. Most digitals are consumer stuff, after three years they are not worth fixing. And I don't think the JVCs last two years

[Person99]

[Person99]

[Curt Palme]

To each their own. I'm not drinking from Dave's Koolaid, I have plenty of CRThampagne here...

[Curt Palme]

To each their own. I'm not drinking from Dave's Koolaid, I have plenty of CRThampagne here...

[Person99]

[jkruger]

You guys remember the Heavens Gate cult? That happened about two miles from away me. Purple shrouds and Nike sneakers...

[Person99]