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Professional Blackout Material: Protostar Flocked Light Trap
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wkosmann



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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Professional Blackout Material: Protostar Flocked Light Trap

Dear All;

I have an opportunity to purchase a 100 yard roll of 30" wide Protostar flocked light trap material (http://www.fpi-protostar.com/flock.htm). This material is used to line the inside of visible light telescopes, and absorbs more than 99% of incident light at visible wavelengths. It should be a superb blackout material for eliminating light reflections off walls and ceilings in a Home Theater.



The back of the material has adhesive on it, so installation is 1) cut to desired length, 2) peel adhesive (paper) cover off, and 3) attach material to wall/ceiling.

I don't need 100 yards of this stuff. So, the purpose of the post is to solicit interest in sharing the cost of the roll. Manuafacturer price is 50 cents per inch for arbitrary short lengths. The manufacturer offers a discount for longer lengths, and prices a 100 yard roll at 35 cents per inch. I can sell the 70 yards I don't need to interested buyers for 30 cents per inch. As an example, if your home theater had walls 7.5 feet high, and a ceiling 15 feet wide, you would need a 30 foot (=10 yards = 360 inches) long swath, which would price out to $108.00 + shipping.

To be clear, I am not purchasing the 100 foot roll from the manufacturer, but from someone else who purchased the roll, but has decided to go in a different direction and now doesn't need the material. I am soliciting possible interest, to see whether I should purchase the entire roll, or just forget about it.

I am posting this in both the For Sale forum (although its a solicitation of interest and not yet for sale) and in the CRT forum.

If you are interested please either post in this thread, or PM me.

William

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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional Blackout Material: Protostar Flocked Light

wkosmann wrote:
I have an opportunity to purchase a 100 yard roll of 30" wide Protostar flocked light trap material (http://www.fpi-protostar.com/flock.htm).

I'd be interested in maybe 8' of it. I don't want to line the walls of my theater, but this would be great stuff for screen frames. Right now I have a DIY blackout screen with no actual frame. I could just cut strips of this, stick it onto the screen material (the screen is oversized), and I'd finally have a nice-looking frame. At least if you didn't look too closely. Smile

Would you ship it rolled?
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject:

Id be interested with some to turn my 12 16x9 screen to the 2.35 scope when i finally do the blend. So count me in for enough for that. Not sure the actual amount so I should order a bit more or at least a 13 foot section .

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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject:

Hmm, too bad this doesn't come in paint form. I'd cover the entire HT room with it.
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject:

Too bad it isn't any wider than 30".
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject:

Figures. I would have been all over this two weeks ago. Just a week ago, I spent about 4 hours over two evenings cutting and stapling ~5"-wide strips of velveteen around the trim (ranch casing if you're interested) I picked up at Lowes. It would have cost a little more, but this would have been a piece of cake.

Hmmm... Maybe I should still get some to put on the sides of my maind speakers and the tops of the subs to cut down on reflections...

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject:

I'll take 10 feet of it. 10' x 30" will do all 4 speakers in the front (left, right, center, sub)

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject:

I would take as much as 20 feet if there is enough to go around.
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject:

Wow. In less than 1 day, it looks like I have interest in at least 50 feet of this stuff.

The 100 yard roll has 300 feet. I need 30 yards, or 90 feet. That leaves 210 feet available. There is way more than enough to go around.

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject:

So, 100 yards is 900 square feet. At 2.5 feet in width, that's about 360 feet in length, correct? How much was the shipping, and can you post a picture of the material (up close)? I may need to buy a roll.

Wow, I just checked the URL you posted. This is self-adhesive backed. Cool! But, I am not seeing 100' rolls of this stuff. The list 200 and 500 inch lengths, but not 1200" (100').

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject:

WanMan,
> So, 100 yards is 900 square feet. At 2.5 feet in width, that's about 360 feet in length, correct? <

I don't think so. 100 yds is 750 sq.ft. At 2.5 ft wide, that's 300 ft in length (=100 yds). It's all linear measure, being offered here for $3.60 per linear foot (2.5' wide).

William,
I can use at least 10' myself. After I get a chance to give it some thought, I may think of a use for up to 20', but I can commit to 10' for now.

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: The Decision Point

Dear Gary;

I will ship the material rolled. I have a bunch of poster tubes that ought to work just fine.

Dear Wan Man;

I don't own the material, so I can't post a picture of it. I provided a link to the manufacturer's web site. I believe there are images of the material on that web site.

Dear All;

By my count, I have ~60 linear feet of expressions of interest. As soon as it reaches 100 linear feet, I will take the financial risk and purchase the roll. At the rate we are going, this should happen by this weekend.

I plan to pick it up at the owner's house on my way to New York City, the weekend of December 6/7. I would be shipping out purchased lengths the following week. This should allow plenty of time for individuals to firm up their orders, pay me via Paypal, and provide shipping addresses. I plan to handle the entire transaction in this thread, along the lines of my hero Athanasios, ala the red CRT element transaction of a few months ago.

Thank you all who have expressed interest.

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Professional Blackout Material: Protostar Flocked Light

wkosmann wrote:
Dear All;

I have an opportunity to purchase a 100 yard roll of 30" wide Protostar flocked light trap material (http://www.fpi-protostar.com/flock.htm). William


I would buy 8 feet of this stuff to use as screen border.

Thanks,
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject:

William,

I could be swayed to buy an extra 10' (so 20' instead of 10') if it's needed to get this order through. I'm flexible.

Kal

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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, count me in for a chunk to play with... it might make a killer portrait backdrop.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject:

VideoGrabber wrote:
WanMan,
> So, 100 yards is 900 square feet. At 2.5 feet in width, that's about 360 feet in length, correct? <

I don't think so. 100 yds is 750 sq.ft. At 2.5 ft wide, that's 300 ft in length (=100 yds). It's all linear measure, being offered here for $3.60 per linear foot (2.5' wide).

William,
I can use at least 10' myself. After I get a chance to give it some thought, I may think of a use for up to 20', but I can commit to 10' for now.


I guess I was thinking in terms of flooring. And when he said yards I interpreted it as square yards. Hence, one square yard is nine square feet.

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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject:

I'd be in for 10' as well.

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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:16 am    Post subject:

Hmm I'll take "Strange things sold on a CRT forum" for 20 feet please Alex.

Er William. Wink

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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject:

WanMan wrote:
> Hence, one square yard is nine square feet. <

Yes, that's usually true. Though I once lived in a house with a square yard, that was thousands of square feet. But mostly rectangular yards, except for that unusual one that was L-shaped, when I was a kid. That one wasn't feet, it was acres. At least, my feet were achers, after I got done mowing it with a push mower. Luckily, those feet weren't square.

What were we discussing again?

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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject:

All I am saying is that I did not know fabric was sold 'by the yard' to mean one-dimensional and not two. Smile

Now that I know, the cost-impression changes. Still, I would like to see a sample of this before I run out to buy enough material to cover half my upcoming their room (~520 SqFt of wall & ceiling surface area).

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