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AnalogRocks
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: Thinking of getting a hernia XBR800 |
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Sony KV-40XBR800
Anyone here own one of these? I was thinking of getting one. It's as big as my desk and weigh's 4 tims as much! I love it.
Any pro's con's to these set's?
And don't bother to list "not a flat screen hang on the wall POS" or "heavy". I know both of those 
I really like the fact it's 4:3. Time to game!!
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winduptoy
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Did a calibration for one of those a few years back. Very good picture; tracks greyscale well. Some of the convergnce menu items didn't work as advertised, but that may have been just this particular set.
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emdawgz1
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I own a 32 in version. It is ROCK SOLID. Not a moment of trouble. Easy to calibrate.
Great color, Great picture.
But get a solid tv stand. Mine has broken my cheapie pressboard one... 
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secstate
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When I was researching Sony direct view sets (picked up a 30HS420 cheap) I recall there was a blob issue on some 40xbr800s. There is more information over on the A site. I also recall that some of these Sony's had a power supply problem that is relatively easy to fix. I have seen a lot of these go begging on CLs. My limit on a TV is what my wife and I can carry into the house. That effectively eliminated the 40xbr. Also be prepared to fix a LOT of overscan. The amount of overscan on my 30HS420 was just crazy. I did some basic service manual tweeks and got it about 50% better but it is still too much. One day when I have lots of free time I will do some more tweeking.
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gehammack
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: Your Sony KV-40XBR800 |
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AnalogRocks,
I've serviced electronics longer than I care to say and have ALWAYS liked Sony products, even the trouble some ones that I've seen over the years. There isn't a TV/monitor unit out there that I know of that can compete with Sony.
Many crt TVs new don't look as good as a weak tubed Sony.
I now work for the U.S. military and one of our video conference rooms has 2 of these monsters for viewing the video conference. These units are on and off alot sometimes, and then on hours at a time. They are 4yrs old and only one has developed a minor problem that is intermittant, picture flashes, I'm sure it just a bad connection on the video input board. Color is great, we have a rather high end Sony camera feeding the system. Graphics thru a ScanDo convertor is clear and sharp.
All this equipment is due to be replaced soon and I would not even think twice about either of them, if offered I take them in a heart beat!!! Now getting it moved, I'd have to hire a BUBBA to help me, maybe 2, ouch was that my back?
If the price is right you'll never be sorry!!!!
greg 
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AnalogRocks
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It was a 700 that came up locally. I'll hold out for the 800. Man the size of that thing. It weighs as much as my SOny 1252 and NEC6PG put together!
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | It was a 700 that came up locally. I'll hold out for the 800. Man the size of that thing. It weighs as much as my SOny 1252 and NEC6PG put together! |
The weight is off balance as well. I was told by a sony rep that the screen is 3inches of solid glass.... thats why is so front heavy.
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lostmandan
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That is a mammoth TV but I am sure a good display though!
I have a Princeton Graphics AF3.0HD sitting in the back room here and I thought it was a beast 
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Good God. Why on earth would you want 3 inches of glass? You'd have to use expensive water glass or similar or you'd get serious color errors and possibly optical issues. Doesn't make sense to me. I'd have to see something reliable before I'd believe the Sony rep on that one.
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| garyfritz wrote: | | Good God. Why on earth would you want 3 inches of glass? You'd have to use expensive water glass or similar or you'd get serious color errors and possibly optical issues. Doesn't make sense to me. I'd have to see something reliable before I'd believe the Sony rep on that one. |
The idea was that in order to make a Vacuum tube of that size, w/ a flat, non curved screen... the thickness of glass was needed to withstand the pressure.
Made sense to me @ the time
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Ohh, so the front of the TUBE is 3". Hmm. Still seems extreme and likely to cause refraction problems but at least that does make some sense.
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305 lbs. Heavy yes, but some RPTV's are more. I'd take it for fun...........................
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AnalogRocks
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | 305 lbs. Heavy yes, but some RPTV's are more. I'd take it for fun........................... |
I bought my Mom the 32" version of this. It woulnd't **quite*** fit up her stair case on the 2 wheel dolly. That was a heavy 8 steps. Finding a stand big enough to hold it was a problem. Mostly because of the speaker wings. I ended up with an RCA stand meant for a 35" bubble tubes RCA.
This beastie lterally measures bigger than this computer desk.
43"x 32.91"x 26.16"(WxHxD)
it's 51" tall on the Sony stand
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | 305 lbs. Heavy yes, but some RPTV's are more. I'd take it for fun........................... |
I bought my Mom the 32" version of this. It woulnd't **quite*** fit up her stair case on the 2 wheel dolly. That was a heavy 8 steps. Finding a stand big enough to hold it was a problem. Mostly because of the speaker wings. I ended up with an RCA stand meant for a 35" bubble tubes RCA.
This beastie lterally measures bigger than this computer desk.
43"x 32.91"x 26.16"(WxHxD)
it's 51" tall on the Sony stand |
Think of it this way. How many RPTV's are that small and that light and wont produce as good of a picture. And how many people have RPTV's and lug them things around. I think I'd rather lug that 40 incher because of the picture quality. And if it didn't come with a stand then BYOS.................(Build your own stand). I've done that before and been very happy with the better quality of home built.........
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AnalogRocks
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | AnalogRocks wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | 305 lbs. Heavy yes, but some RPTV's are more. I'd take it for fun........................... |
I bought my Mom the 32" version of this. It woulnd't **quite*** fit up her stair case on the 2 wheel dolly. That was a heavy 8 steps. Finding a stand big enough to hold it was a problem. Mostly because of the speaker wings. I ended up with an RCA stand meant for a 35" bubble tubes RCA.
This beastie lterally measures bigger than this computer desk.
43"x 32.91"x 26.16"(WxHxD)
it's 51" tall on the Sony stand |
Think of it this way. How many RPTV's are that small and that light and wont produce as good of a picture. And how many people have RPTV's and lug them things around. I think I'd rather lug that 40 incher because of the picture quality. And if it didn't come with a stand then BYOS.................(Build your own stand). I've done that before and been very happy with the better quality of home built......... |
Very true.
My 42" RCA RPTV will probaly not look as good as this set.
I hope one turns up when I
a./ have some spare cash
b./ don't have too bad a back
c./ have an empty truck to transport it in and
d./ can sucker my friends into helping me.
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Yes, the glass is thick at the front of these big CRT's. I had a broken 37" Mitsubishi tube and while I don't think that it was a full 3" thick, it was definitely more than 2". The glass was very heavy and very brittle. I could tap it lightly with a hammer and it would break of extremely sharp shards: made me think of making flint arrowheads.
The shadow mask was attached to the glass (suspended just in front of the phospher coating) and the thinner bell and neck was glued to the front glass. The sides of the bell were about 1/4" to 3/8" thick. The neck where the gun resides was just about what we see on our projection CRT's.
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| outwest wrote: | Yes, the glass is thick at the front of these big CRT's. I had a broken 37" Mitsubishi tube and while I don't think that it was a full 3" thick, it was definitely more than 2". The glass was very heavy and very brittle. I could tap it lightly with a hammer and it would break of extremely sharp shards: made me think of making flint arrowheads.
The shadow mask was attached to the glass (suspended just in front of the phospher coating) and the thinner bell and neck was glued to the front glass. The sides of the bell were about 1/4" to 3/8" thick. The neck where the gun resides was just about what we see on our projection CRT's. |
I remember those Mitsubishi set's they were beasties too. Haven't seen one in years.
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