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CasetheCorvetteman



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Location: Australia

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject:

Dave Lister wrote:
Yeah mine has the SD187 tubes.

I see you already have upgrade-itis, it is incurable you know. Laughing

The deal was done yesterday, i now own an NEC 9PG+ Wink

Person99 wrote:
Electrogeek wrote:
also, i'd tell you curt has tube for these projectors at really good prices (i got a red off him before i got my other projectors) he will well worth asking if you need tubes Smile


Sorry, but you have to be insane to spend a nickel on one of these. If the tubes cost more than about $3, I don't see how it is worth it!

I dont really agree, cause if youre planning on using it solely to play video games such as NEO-GEO, 3DO, Sega Mega drive/Genesis, and various 8 bit console games that my mrs and I grew up playing and still love to play, then there isnt much point in having much more of a machine for it, as the machine can only display whatever the console will send, if that happens to be 320x240, the VPH-1001QM is indeed worth using for this. Anything more for this simple task is just wearing out a more expensive projector for no real gain that i can see a point to.

At this stage, i dont see the need to replace the tubes, certainly not the red or green, however if i did replace anything, it would be the blue, and i would consider it worth the effort if the cost wasnt too high. Thumbs Up
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Electrogeek



Joined: 03 Aug 2007
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Location: Hamilton New Zealand

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject:

I'd have to disagree,
-we only have SD tv broadcast here (though change is in the wind)
-they run really well, and having no fans in them, they run silent, to be fair i was disappointed when i hung the 1001 and it was not silent
- they may not be super high res, but they still outperform a cheep LCD in both running costs and picture
- and have you ever seen how much it costs to international travel 100kgs of crt projector?

Yeah, they, may not be the flashest, but they work well, have huge tube life, i dont have to worry about the flatmates using them, really, i think it is quite sensible Smile (sure as hell there would be no way flat mates would be watching TV on an LCD)

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CasetheCorvetteman



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject:

Yeah mate, they are certainly better then a cheaper LCD, i have 2 Epsons here, an EMP S4 and also an EMP S5, and even with the bad wear on that blue tube and the lack of being able to horizontally align the convergence, the picture was better than either of those Epsons in everything bar the sharpness, which was mainly due to the convergence being out of whack in some areas.

The Sony VPH-1001QM does have at least 3 fans though, i have it all pulled apart on my bench here now. It is still quieter then my Epsons are and CERTAINLY quieter then my Mitsubishi was.

Since i have now got an NEC 9PG+ coming as well, this Sony will be only used for our gaming, and it really is perfectly suited to it. Its better in many ways than the Epsons cause the contrast ratio is substantially better, and the colour tones are better. We only play games with the lights off at night anyway, so the lumen level isnt even an issue, the contrast ratio more then makes up for the 1,300 lumens less when compared to the EMP S5, considering youre comparing 400:1 contrast against 15,000:1 for the Sony.

Ive never replaced a lamp in an LCD projector yet, and ive owned 3 of them, one i sold to a friend (Mitsubishi SE-1) and although its recently gone very dim, it is still on its original bulb at about 3,600 hrs, considering it started with a 2,000 hr life, its doing ok.

That said, id rather replace a tube in an obsolete CRT projector then replace a lamp in an LCD projector that may not live to see the end of the next lamp before the LCD panels are cooked from heat.
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Dave Lister wrote:
Yeah mine has the SD187 tubes.

I see you already have upgrade-itis, it is incurable you know. Laughing

The deal was done yesterday, i now own an NEC 9PG+ Wink

Person99 wrote:
Electrogeek wrote:
also, i'd tell you curt has tube for these projectors at really good prices (i got a red off him before i got my other projectors) he will well worth asking if you need tubes Smile


Sorry, but you have to be insane to spend a nickel on one of these. If the tubes cost more than about $3, I don't see how it is worth it!

I dont really agree, cause if youre planning on using it solely to play video games such as NEO-GEO, 3DO, Sega Mega drive/Genesis, and various 8 bit console games that my mrs and I grew up playing and still love to play, then there isnt much point in having much more of a machine for it, as the machine can only display whatever the console will send, if that happens to be 320x240, the VPH-1001QM is indeed worth using for this. Anything more for this simple task is just wearing out a more expensive projector for no real gain that i can see a point to.

At this stage, i dont see the need to replace the tubes, certainly not the red or green, however if i did replace anything, it would be the blue, and i would consider it worth the effort if the cost wasnt too high. Thumbs Up


Ohh you haven't tried a line Quadrupler or a VideoScaller on an old video game system with a higher end projector. Twisted Evil

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CasetheCorvetteman



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Location: Australia

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject:

No mate, but i have played them on emulators with the CRT monitor on 1920x1440 and tried every different graphic enhancement available, they just didint look right.

My Harman Kardon AVR has a Faroudja DCDi upscaler in it.
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