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johnsmith808
Joined: 15 Oct 2008
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I actually had my original crt pj table mounted. Now that was ugly.
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| draganm wrote: | | i dunno, I'm kind of with chipster on this one. If not just about where you spend your money, it's how you want your HT to look. |
How much time do you spend looking up at your mount vs. watching movies in a dark theater? Anything beyond an "acceptable" room is really just to impress the Jones'. Why are you so worried about trying to impress people?
| draganm wrote: | | Some of the uni-strut mounts look like the cats ass. Eye bolts, lead pipe, ropes, ect. |
That is the fault of the installer. You can make a very elegant unistrut based mount. If you need a drop mount, a couple of Peerless 8x8 plates, a 1.5" pipe painted black, and unistrut for the ceiling and the projector side make a very good looking elegant mount.
| draganm wrote: | | On top of that adjustment is limited, there's no side to side swivel, and tilt usually involves unscrewing nuts and bolts while hoping you don't go too far and have the whole thing crash on your head. |
If you need tilt or swivel, the PJ is not properly mounted. It should be level, centered on the screen and square with the screen. So your argument here is "you need a factory mount to improperly hang your PJ!!!".
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Well, not always. Marquees have to be tilted down toward the screen in order to center the raster. So tilt makes sense there.
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draganm
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LOL, dave you must really be bored with your RS1 if your here trying to start an argument with me about CRT mounting brackets. I never said it was impossible to build a decent DIY mounting system, but it would take at least a drill press and some basic fabrication skills. Case in point most of the DIY look like ass and are awkward to use.
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BradTheAggie
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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Location: Oak Point, Texas
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I fabricated my mount from an old network rack I was given for free. Cut and drilled it to fit the Marquee mounting holes, bolted it together and spray painted it flat black. Then I picked up some Peerless mounts off fleabay to bolt the whole thing into the ceiling. I probably spent around $75 for the whole project, and it's solid as a rock.
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rabies_70
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Location: Carlsbad, CA
TV/Projector: Sony G70Q
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| draganm wrote: | | most of the DIY look like ass and are awkward to use. |
Bwahahahahah  that is very funny to me
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Brian Hampton
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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Betel,
Your mount looks great (especially the uni-strut portion.)
(Heading over to the for sale forum to check how many uni-strut haters are trying to sell OEM mounts currently.)
(So far only found Betel's OEM mount listing ... stilll looking for chip's.)
-Brian
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| garyfritz wrote: | | Well, not always. Marquees have to be tilted down toward the screen in order to center the raster. So tilt makes sense there. |
But tilting toward the screen than requires more keystone correction which means even less resolving power toward the narrow end of the raster. That is really the correct Marquee mounting? They have a built in angle just like all other CRTs which are there to facilitate flat mounting. I understand techniques where the PJ is mounted closer to the screen center and tilted away from the screen to minimize keystone and maximize resolution, but I never heard that any CRT required tilting toward the screen for proper set up.
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| draganm wrote: | | LOL, dave you must really be bored with your RS1 |
I don't have an RS1--I don't like the cartoon colors and I can't afford a Lumagen Radiance to properly correct the primaries and secondaries.
| draganm wrote: | | if your here trying to start an argument with me about CRT mounting brackets. I never said it was impossible to build a decent DIY mounting system, but it would take at least a drill press and some basic fabrication skills. Case in point most of the DIY look like ass and are awkward to use. |
Actually, not trying to pick an argument. Just pointing out this is a gross generalization and a very narrow mindset ("I would not hang a PJ without a factory mount") It is not that an elegant unistrut mount can't be made, it is just that it usually isn't made. Further, you can do a very nice looking mount without a drill press or any fabrication skills. The only fabrication skills are cutting the unistrut to length. Do drop mounts made from unistrut and allthread sometimes look like Rube Golberg contraptions? Yes. But my point is they don't have to. A good looking secure mount can be DIY very simply and very cost effectively.
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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Location: Fort Collins, CO
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| Person99 wrote: | | But tilting toward the screen than requires more keystone correction which means even less resolving power toward the narrow end of the raster. That is really the correct Marquee mounting? |
Dragan should answer this, but -- yes, I believe so. When I first mounted my 8500 I mounted it level, and found I had to run the raster way off-center. Dragan told me it's normal to tilt an 8500. Don't ask me why they didn't do a normal vertical offset.
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draganm
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yes all marquee's wind up with a few degree's of chassis tilt in a typical HT install (8 or 9 foot ceiling). I don't hate Uni strut either. As someone stated earlier 2 pices of low-profile strut are normally used to bridge a couple flooor joists. From there you hange the 2" tall factory bracket. Total stack-up is 3" and adjustability is excellent. Of course don't let me stop all the penny pinchers from using eye-bolts and lead pipe, it's your HT and you can do as you please. 
I'm sure there's some nice DIY mounts out there but a lof of the pics i've seen posted look like a Cluster-Fudge. I just don't see the point of spending a few hours to Kluge together Ace hardware stuff when a used factory mount is about 100 bucks average.
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betel
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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Location: Maryville, Tennessee (Just South of Knoxville)
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| garyfritz wrote: | betel, I LOVE the pulley conversion!! Very clever. Does it raise it all the way to the "hook-up" point?
Wish I'd thought of something like that. But my 8500 is on the ceiling now and (knock on wood) it ain't comin' down. Not until it comes down for good. |
It raises the projector part of the mount into the recess. You then push it forward and drop it in. The unistrut was used to allow travel to maximize raster.
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Electrogeek
Joined: 03 Aug 2007
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Location: Hamilton New Zealand
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i suppose it makes me luck then that my PJ came with a mount, i dont know if it is in fact a sony mount (In fact i would say it is almost defiantly not), however, it has one cool thing i have yet to meet a mount that also does,, i can slacken off one screw and then rotate the projector to point any way i like 
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stefuel
Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Location: Green Harbor MA USA
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I guess I'm not the only one that thinks Uni-Strut mounts looks like "ass". I do however use uni-strut in every CRT installation I'm involved in but it's used along with a factory mount. I recently helped Heywood prep his ceiling for mounting his new 9500LC. He took pictures. Prehaps he'll post them here if he reads this.
Dave,
Sometimes I get the impression that you are really out there 
I have a factory mount for every projector I own. I would not have it any other way. I think they are the safest and most easy way to hang a CRT projector not to mention that it adds a pro look to the job.
Dave,
I'm getting that impression right now
Some of you guy's take great pride in your Uni-Strut mounts. Some of them do look fine. It's just not my cup of tea. I don't care if you paint them candy apple red. Ass is still ass
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Location: Australia
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I got my Sony VPH-1001QM for free, and was thinking ill just use my stud finder to locate some hardwood in the ceiling, then put some big batten screws through the case to hold it up...... Or not.... 
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Mr. Green
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Location: Calgary
TV/Projector: Marquee 9501LC / NEC 9PG+
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You are so going to fit in with this bunch...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Cheers mate 
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Z-Photo
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Location: Huntsville - Alabama
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I highly recommend that you leave the seat directly under the PJ for the mother-in-law
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