|
As this forum is rarely used anymore, we've locked it. Feel free to browse and read. Questions? Please reach out to us directly. Cheers! |
|
 |
|
|
| Author |
Message |
AVphile
Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 334
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Axatax wrote: | | The scaler obviously can replace a whole rat's nest of single purpose black boxes (think switches, transcoders, etc.) while offering all the adjustments mentioned above. I cringe when I see the Rube Goldberg Receiver->HDMI switch->Fury->Transcoder->Analog Cable->Adapter->PJ thing on here so often. ACK! VP->Moome Card for me! |
Let's just clear one thing up. VP's do not strip the HDCP ala Fury/Moome, right?
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 4899
Location: Flower Mound, TX
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| AVphile wrote: | | Axatax wrote: | | The scaler obviously can replace a whole rat's nest of single purpose black boxes (think switches, transcoders, etc.) while offering all the adjustments mentioned above. I cringe when I see the Rube Goldberg Receiver->HDMI switch->Fury->Transcoder->Analog Cable->Adapter->PJ thing on here so often. ACK! VP->Moome Card for me! |
Let's just clear one thing up. VP's do not strip the HDCP ala Fury/Moome, right? |
RIGHT! They follow all the rules.
There was one "buggy" version of Lumagen firmware the didn't disable the analog inputs the way it was supposed to, but the next firmware revision fixed that.
_________________
Dave
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station....
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 3068
Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Gino wrote: | | Mark, is there a solution for CMS, grey scale and gamma on htpc's? I've got myself a BD enabled laptop and wouldn't mind being able to adjust these parameters a little bit. |
What's CMS Gino?
And for grey scale, do you mean a colour profile? I never bothered with this, but it can be done.
Or do you mean a custom Gamma curve? You can either use the drivers, or Powerstrip (stick to linear ramps or it bands), or a nice little app called Video Equalizer, which will give you something like 8-64 points per colour.
I can send you Video Equaliser if you like. It doesn't play well with multi monitors, but once you set it with a single monitor you can re-enable the second monitor.
Currently I am running a Powerstrip linear gamma curve (1.25 for Blue, 1.35 for Green, 1.45 for Red) and a HCFR colour calibration to get greyscale right.
I tried a funky ski jump gamma curve with Video Equalizer, based on Russ's curve, but it made my XG streak.
The caveat is if you run XP on an ATi card, then Powerdvd cannot have Gamma (it uses Overlay). I don't use Powerdvd anymore so it doesn't bother me....and I went to Vista (SMOOTHER..really really frickin SMOOTH), so I think Poxdvd uses EVR in Vista so it would have Gamma.
No bull****, the PC is a LOT of work. But I like it more than my CRT. I'm really, really happy with my current PC setup, it's taken a lot of work. Bluray is stunning, and finally I have it SMOOTH with a capital SMOO.
It looks as good as Chris's VP50, at least to my eyes. I only watch HD on the projector - and you should see BD/HD-DVD on the 24" Sony CRT monitor, it's awesome.
There's nothing a scaler can do that my PC can't, for me anyway. Even decoding 100% in software I only use 30% of the overclocked Q6600 Quad Core, so I could "fiddle" with the image if I wanted - noise reduction etc.
On the audio side, I can do most things a new receiver can do - automatic application of Dolby PLII to stereo video soundtracks (usually digital TV), full room correction (only done it for stereo music so far, but it can be done - I just have to measure all my speakers), bass management, speaker delays, etc.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
timf
Joined: 07 Jul 2007
Posts: 102
Location: Adelaide South Australia
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mark_A_W wrote: | | Gino wrote: | | Mark, is there a solution for CMS, grey scale and gamma on htpc's? I've got myself a BD enabled laptop and wouldn't mind being able to adjust these parameters a little bit. |
What's CMS Gino? |
I think hes talking about Colour Management System, adjusting primaries (?) to compensate for oversaturation maybe 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
Posts: 4899
Location: Flower Mound, TX
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Mark_A_W wrote: |
No bull****, the PC is a LOT of work....There's nothing a scaler can do that my PC can't, for me anyway. |
Actually, that IS the thing a scaler can do that your PC can't--be much less work so you use that time to watch movies instead of set up a PC! 
_________________
Dave
A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station....
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 3068
Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| timf wrote: | | Mark_A_W wrote: | | Gino wrote: | | Mark, is there a solution for CMS, grey scale and gamma on htpc's? I've got myself a BD enabled laptop and wouldn't mind being able to adjust these parameters a little bit. |
What's CMS Gino? |
I think hes talking about Colour Management System, adjusting primaries (?) to compensate for oversaturation maybe |
Ahh.
You can crop your primaries back within the BT709 or REC709 (whatever is the correct terminology), if they are straying outside, I know a guy who does that. But my XG was pretty bang on so I didn't bother and I imagine a filtered Marquee would be identical (same phosphurs, same colour C elements).
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 3068
Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Person99 wrote: | | Mark_A_W wrote: |
No bull****, the PC is a LOT of work....There's nothing a scaler can do that my PC can't, for me anyway. |
Actually, that IS the thing a scaler can do that your PC can't--be much less work so you use that time to watch movies instead of set up a PC! |
I don't want to. I don't have enough material for that - there aren't enough blurays worth buying or renting.
Last night I started setting my Media Player Classis Home Cinema, just for fun, because there's nothing to fiddle with now on my normal setup 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
ecrabb
Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 15909
Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm exactly the opposite (surprise!) - I barely have time to average one movie per week. In fact, last night, I went down and sat in the theater with my feet up and the MacBook on my lap and worked while I watched the Speed channel. That way, I could at least say I USED the theater once over the weekend.
So, for me, a Windows computer is the LAST thing I need complicating my life even more than it already is. I'm actually in the process of finding some devices/methods to simplify my life - selling a computer or two, adding some NAS storage... I'd be a good scaler candidate, but I don't want to spend the money.
SC
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
AVB
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 12
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
I have a Key Digital Leeza that I use for standard DVD's feeding the SDI input from a modded player. Because I can play my SDI player and a Panasonic DMP-BD35 at the same time I can easily do a comparison between a fully processed DVD and a Blu-ray one on my Ehome 8501 projecting on a 106" screen. While the Blu-ray is slightly better (and I mean you have to look hard most of the time to see it) then the Leeza, the Leeza is much better then the up-converted Panasonic. For me, with 700 or so regular DVDs, the Leeza is still a useful part of my system.
Here is my basic configuration.
Panasonic DMP-BD35 feeding into an Onkyo PR-SC885P
Onkyo to a HD Fury HDMI to RGB converter
Fury to RGB input on Leeza (set to bypass)
SDI player to Leeza SDI input
Leeza RGBHV output to Electrohome 8501
If there are any questions you have I'll do my best to answer them.
| budk wrote: | Speaking of Video processors, does anyone use a Key Digital HD-1080P Video Processor (HD-LEEZA) and if so, what are the key benefits of this unit?
Thanks. Bud |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
|
Forum powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
|
|
