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Gino
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My new Sony laptop has a blu-ray drive and 1080p HDMI output. I wonder if I connect the HDMI output if it carries the audio tracks (esp TrueHD, DTS HD MA)?
Also, does AnyDVD HD just allow ripping, or can you use it to change region codes?
If creating a BD image, is it possible to create images with a different region or region free?
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nuttall_chris
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Gino wrote: | My new Sony laptop has a blu-ray drive and 1080p HDMI output. I wonder if I connect the HDMI output if it carries the audio tracks (esp TrueHD, DTS HD MA)?
Also, does AnyDVD HD just allow ripping, or can you use it to change region codes?
If creating a BD image, is it possible to create images with a different region or region free? |
AnyDVD HD allows you to remove or change the recion code.
As for audio over HDMI, it should work but it is sometimes difficult to get it to work. My graphics card (ATI 2600XT) supports audio over DVI with a special DVI to HDMI adapter that was supplied with the card. The DVI outputs of the 2600XT have a few extra pins that the adapter carries over to the HDMI cable.
Chris
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yeme
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Location: Sandy Springs, GA
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| Quote: | | Yeme, I am using Daemon Tools and have it mounted. PowerDVD recognizes the disk and plays the movie for a few seconds before that error interrupts about needing an update. |
lite426,
I am using OEM 7.3 PDVD for playback. If you have access to the previous software players, you may find some success. I do know some folks use two different PDVD versions on the same PC (i.e. ver 7 and ver 8).
Also, take a look at this thread and make sure your ISO creation follows these suggestions:
http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=17947
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Mark_A_W
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
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Location: Sunny Melbourne Australia
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| Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| paw wrote: | | You guys are able to make disc copies of Blu-ray discs? |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Nice one Centurion, liked it, liked it... 
If Powerdvd is pissing you guys off (Powerdvd Ultra 7.3.3516 seems pretty good to me, but there's no Gamma, at least on an ATi card), then it's VERY EASY to convert the Bluray (or HD-DVD) to .mkv format for easy playback, and to save space.
Just go to Doom9 and download eac3to.exe
Then open a command window and type (for instance) D:\eac3to.exe F:\
Where D:\ is where eac3to resides, and F:\ is the Bluray/HD-DVD drive.
This will tell you what's in the longest track on the disc.
Then pick the .m2ts file and type that out "D:\eac3to.exe F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts"
eac3to v2.56
command line: eac3to.exe F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
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M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 17 subtitle tracks, 1:45:58
1: Chapters, 16 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: RAW/PCM, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
4: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB
5: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
6: AC3, Japanese, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
7: Subtitle (PGS), English
8: Subtitle (PGS), English
9: Subtitle (PGS), Arabic
10: Subtitle (PGS), Bulgarian
11: Subtitle (PGS), Croatian
12: Subtitle (PGS), Czech
13: Subtitle (PGS), Modern Greek
14: Subtitle (PGS), Hebrew
15: Subtitle (PGS), Hindi
16: Subtitle (PGS), Hungarian
17: Subtitle (PGS), Icelandic
18: Subtitle (PGS), Polish
19: Subtitle (PGS), Romanian
20: Subtitle (PGS), Slovenian
21: Subtitle (PGS), Turkish
22: Subtitle (PGS), English
23: Subtitle (PGS), English
Then pick the video and the audio you want (and the chapters):
"D:\eac3to.exe F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts 1: final_chapters.txt 2: final_video.mkv 3: final_audio.flac"
This will convert the audio losslessly to FLAC - which is easy to play.
eac3to v2.56
command line: eac3to.exe F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts 1: final_chapters.txt 2: final_video.mkv 3: final_audio.flac
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M2TS, 1 video track, 4 audio tracks, 17 subtitle tracks, 1:45:58
1: Chapters, 16 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: RAW/PCM, English, 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz
4: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -28dB
5: AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
6: AC3, Japanese, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz
7: Subtitle (PGS), English
8: Subtitle (PGS), English
9: Subtitle (PGS), Arabic
10: Subtitle (PGS), Bulgarian
11: Subtitle (PGS), Croatian
12: Subtitle (PGS), Czech
13: Subtitle (PGS), Modern Greek
14: Subtitle (PGS), Hebrew
15: Subtitle (PGS), Hindi
16: Subtitle (PGS), Hungarian
17: Subtitle (PGS), Icelandic
18: Subtitle (PGS), Polish
19: Subtitle (PGS), Romanian
20: Subtitle (PGS), Slovenian
21: Subtitle (PGS), Turkish
22: Subtitle (PGS), English
23: Subtitle (PGS), English
Creating file "final_chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Reading RAW/PCM...
[a03] Swapping endian...
[a03] Remapping channels...
[a03] Encoding FLAC...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Creating file "final_audio.flac"...
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 152448 frames.
eac3to processing took 2 hours, 24 minutes.
Done.
Then mux the video.mkv track and audio.flac track (and the chapters.txt file) together using mkvmerge which is part of the mkvtoolnix. Just pick the video track, then the audio track, and pick the chapters file in the third page, under global.
It's not that hard to do. If you get a seamless branching disc, you run "D:\eac3to.exe F:\ -demux" and it will assemble and spit out all the tracks on the longest title. Then convert to mkv and flac one at a time.
BD is proving to be far less protected in practice than DVD I have all my discs converted for easy playback, with the best audio converted losslessly to FLAC and I get gamma, and I can use whatever renderer I prefer.
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Gino
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Mark, is it possible yet to create a demo disc of different scenes from different movies and put it on a BD ISO or mkv?
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Mark_A_W
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: |
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I suppose so.
I don't know how to author a BD myself, but if you just want to convert to mkv, you may be able to edit the files with VirtualDubMod.
I've never tried to edit a AVC/VC-1 file.
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Gino
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I have WinDVD BD preinstalled on my laptop. Should I use this or PowerDVD?
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aspec2
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Gino
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| aspec2 wrote: | dvdfab
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Are you sure dvdfab does Blu-ray movies???
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Chuchuf
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Gino wrote: | | I have WinDVD BD preinstalled on my laptop. Should I use this or PowerDVD? |
PowerDVD8 or 7 (if you want the earlier version) or Arcsoft Total Media Theater are the players everyone is using for BluRay playback.
Terry
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jkruger
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Why is it called "Ripping"?
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macgyver655
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| Gino wrote: | | aspec2 wrote: | dvdfab
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Are you sure dvdfab does Blu-ray movies??? |
The latest version will do BluRay's released prior to June 2008. Movies released after that date are hit and miss because protection was changed on many especially 20th Century Fox.
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Brian Hampton
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Quote "Why is it called "Ripping"? "
Because you are ripping off the studios.
Biting the hand that feeds you.
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emdawgz1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Brian Hampton wrote: | Quote "Why is it called "Ripping"? "
Because you are ripping off the studios.
Biting the hand that feeds you. |
Biting the Hand????
The media industry has been RAPING the consumer in this country. Go out to LA and look at how much money is generated ... and its not enough. If i buy a cd and lose it... can i ask for another copy? I have already paid for it... no you bought a copy you lost what you owned you must buy another. Ok. So if i buy a car i can sell it, lend it, give it away share it as i choose. Can i do this with a CD???? No, the media company owns ALL rights to the use of the disc. When you buy a cd what exactly are you buying??? There's no SIMPLE explanation. Why? because they want to be free to define "Fair use" as they choose.
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perisoft
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Brian Hampton wrote: | Quote "Why is it called "Ripping"? "
Because you are ripping off the studios.
Biting the hand that feeds you. |
Oh, look! Another sanctimonious blowhard who has no idea what he's talking about!
God knows nobody would ever want to rip bluray to their computer so they can play it without the CPU overhead to decrunch the DRM in real time.
God knows nobody would ever want to rip bluray to their computer so they can have it easily accessible in a media library without swapping discs that they *own*.
God knows nobody would ever want to rip bluray to their computer so they can timeshift a rental, or a disc they borrowed from a buddy. Or is it only morally acceptable to watch a borrowed disc if your buddy can't theoretically watch it at the same time? Or is it not acceptable to watch a borrowed disc at all?
Where's the boundary? What's OK, and what's not, O Wise Solomon of fair use? And how do any of the scenarios I described above 'rip off' the studios, given that in every case they were paid?
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jkruger
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Copying sounds so much better than "Ripping".... lets just not use that term.
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MikeEby
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| jkruger wrote: | | Copying sounds so much better than "Ripping".... lets just not use that term. |
I prefer backing up.
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Brian Hampton
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Quote "Oh, look! Another sanctimonious blowhard who has no idea what he's talking about!
God knows nobody would ever want to rip bluray to their computer so they can play it without the CPU overhead to decrunch the DRM in real time.
God knows nobody would ever want to rip bluray to their computer so they can have it easily accessible in a media library without swapping discs that they *own*.
God knows nobody would ever want to rip bluray to their computer so they can timeshift a rental, or a disc they borrowed from a buddy. Or is it only morally acceptable to watch a borrowed disc if your buddy can't theoretically watch it at the same time? Or is it not acceptable to watch a borrowed disc at all? "
Nice, Let's leave God out of it shall we.
And, John E,
Yeah,.. If you buy a CD and lose it they don't give you another one. If you buy a car and lose it,.. they don't give you another one either.
You can sell a used CD... I've done it.
I know all you ripping folks just want to forego having to pull the dern things off the shelf and put them in the drives and I also know HTPC's can't play and read a disc at the same time reliably if it's a WinDowS OS.
I copy CDs to take in the car because they are easy to scratch up and I like to have a back up.
I do think that pirating movies is a case of biting the hand that feeds at least in my case because when a movie I love comes to DVD or even better to Blu Ray I see it like a gift. Maybe that's fuxored but that's just me.
-Brian
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| perisoft wrote: | | Oh, look! Another sanctimonious blowhard who has no idea what he's talking about! |
Oh, look! Another self-righteous "fair-use" zealot that apparently can't tell the difference between actual fair-use borrowing/lending, rental per a rental license and outright piracy/copyright infringement!
| perisoft wrote: | | timeshift a rental, or a disc they borrowed from a buddy |
"Time shift" a rental?!?! HHhahhahhahahhhha... Time shift a disc you borrowed from a friend... Seriously? Can you not see the idiocy in that statement? Are you incapable understanding the basic concepts of renting and borrowing and how it's different from copying?
Call it what you want: Rip, copy, time shift - whatever. I'm a big supporter of fair use and consumer rights, and I have no problem with copying media for your own personal use as long as YOU BOUGHT IT. If you didn't buy it (you're in this category if you're just renting or borrowing), then you have NO RIGHT whatsoever to copy it. Period. WHY is that so difficult for some people to understand? I just don't get it. Just because the music industry and movie industry makes a mint/fortune/sh*t-load, you then toss your morals and ethics out the window and think you have some kind of right? Go look up the word "rationalization" in the dictionary.
Time shift rentals... Oh, man - that's a good one.
SC
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garyfritz
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'm also a big fan of fair use, and a big supporter of intellectual property rights. My kids know that getting a copy of a friend's CD is heavily frowned on in this house.
However, I see no problem whatsoever in timeshifting a rental, as long as that's what you really do. If you rip the DVD, watch the movie, and delete the copy, fine. If you ""forget"" to delete the copy, then you've ripped off an illegal copy, and that is NOT OK.
If you rent and watch it tonight, vs. rent and watch it next week, what's the diff? You paid to rent it either way. No one is hurt, no royalties are lost, no IP rights have been abrogated. You're just watching a rented disk at a more convenient time. (Which in my case at least results in MORE rentals than I would otherwise do.)
Assuming you DO actually delete the copies after you watch it once, what is the moral or legal problem?
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